T. Hoskins
07-15-2002, 09:50 PM
you are showing your ignorance (or true identity).
>Heheh, you're funny. I've never been worried about immigrant coders, heck
>I have been responsible for hiring several. When I'm personally hiring...
Yeah right. How could you have been responsible for hiring several H-1B
visa workers and not know that these individuals are not immigrants?
Q. What is their status?
A. They are temporary workers.
Why don't you do what Mark has done and spend some time learning about this
topic before commenting on it?
Someone-do-do-do-do
07-15-2002, 10:41 PM
"T. Hoskins" <thoskins@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>you are showing your ignorance (or true identity).
>
>>Heheh, you're funny. I've never been worried about immigrant coders, heck
>>I have been responsible for hiring several. When I'm personally hiring...
>
>
>Yeah right. How could you have been responsible for hiring several H-1B
>visa workers and not know that these individuals are not immigrants?
>
>Q. What is their status?
>A. They are temporary workers.
>
>Why don't you do what Mark has done and spend some time learning about this
>topic before commenting on it?
Gee, maybe if you got off your butt and stepped outside in the real world
you might figure something practical out. How do you figure someone goes
through IMMIGRATION? Not everyone claims political asylum, or married to
some loser that decides to take a trip to the Philippines. Many enter the
country under "working visas". And I don't hire H-1B visa applicants specifically
because I live and work in Canada. I've hired people that have been in the
country less than a month. If they speak English and write good code, then
I don't give a rat's arse what country they were born in, or how long they've
been in the country. (Provided of course they are here legally.)
But no, you'd rather sit in here and whine like a beat up h0 about how someone's
stealing all your tricks. The simple fact is, if a company thinks they're
going to do well saving a buck and hiring someone that's likely desperate
for a start, and potentially sacrifice highly skilled workers in the process,
then they won't be in business too long. But don't spit at people that actually
see talent in people that decide to come to your country to make something
of themselves, and certainly don't spit at the people trying to make something
of themselves. You can take that discriminatory "I was here first" attitude,
bend over, and ram it where the sun doesn't shine.
Don't think for a second that I as a lead developer am going to select a
puffed up cockatoo that talks the talk but can't walk the walk and expects
$60,000k/yr just because they stuck their arse in front of a computer for
5 years in this country, over someone that's dedicated at proving themselves
and willing to work to prove themselves. Maybe that means I start them off
as a more junior developer if they lack the skills, but if they work out,
and they more often than not do work out, they're very well compensated for
their work, like anyone else would be. Thing is, I've interviewed both types
of people. If the local talent isn't so hot, I offer them the $40,000k and
a chance to earn more.. And they typically choose to refuse.
And just FYI, in about a year, I *will* be on the receiving end, working
to prove myself. I'm actually moving to a different country, and (you guessed
it!) under a "working visa". But don't worry, I'm not heading down to the
U.S. Though I could always change my mind and sneak another job out from
under your nose...
Be afraid, be very afraid!