The most stupid thing I've read

[John]

The Internet is evolving, and doesn't belong in the hands of minimalists like
Glenn Davis. The truth is that technology must push the Internet standards,
the standards must not restrict technology and define technology. Technology
and innovation must come before standards, or else you create a bureaucracy
of "creativity police."

What you're saying is that Microsoft (and others) should learn to do less,
and slower, so that you and your heel draggers can can assert control.

The Internet is more than a browser. Business processes and innovation shouldn't
have to cater to the politics of Glenn et al.

[Glenn Davis]

"John" <hairygeek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Technology
>and innovation must come before standards, or else you create a bureaucracy
>of "creativity police."

Boy John, I'm sure glad I don't live in your world. I'd have to buy a TV
set for every station I'd want to watch because creative broadcasting techniques
would have come first. Need a different car for every road driven as well
with possible a differnt fuel for each car. Let's not stop creativity.

The truth of the matter is that standards play an extremely important part
of our everyday life. There are certain core standards in nearly everything
we interact with. And innovation was not passed up in favor of standards
either.

>What you're saying is that Microsoft (and others) should learn to do less,
>and slower, so that you and your heel draggers can can assert control.

No, what we're saying is that innovation is fine, but support the core standards.
CSS-1 has been a standard since 1996. So why doesn't MS implement it fully
in their windows IE browser? Want to see a better implementation of CSS-1?
Load up the MacIntosh version of IE5. It holds a far better implementation
of CSS-1 that the windows version, of even of IE5.5 windows. That means
that I can code for Mac IE5 and it might not work on Win IE5.

Now tell me, in what way does it make sense that the browsers comeing out
of microsoft can't all support enough of the standards to be compatible?

Glenn

[Peter Williams]

Having bought the "Project Cool guide to HTML"
I have always thought that Glenn was anything but a minimalist.
If anything I thought he was a reckless early adopter of new
functionality, and somewhat prone to promoting flashy techniques
over support for the lowest common denominator.
Jakob Nielsen is a prototypical minimalist, Glenn is not even
close in my opinion. He wants the standards supported so that
he/we can take advantage of the great advantages in presentation
and "functionality" offered by new things like css, dhtml, and dom. That
isn't minimalism, it's foward looking commonsense.


"John" <hairygeek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>The Internet is evolving, and doesn't belong in the hands of minimalists
like
>Glenn Davis.