Re: WinXP SP1 to include .NET Framework - AS AN OPTION

[W.E.(Bill) Goodrich, PhD]

In article <3cee38ca$1@10.1.10.29>,
"Patrick Troughton" <Patrick@Troughton.com> writes:

> <quote>
> Microsoft released .Net Framework for download earlier this spring
> using XP's Windows Update feature. The software giant is adding it
> to the service pack "because we've heard from customers and developers
> who are now building applications for the .Net Framework as part of
> Visual Studio.Net," Cullinan said. "They wanted it sooner than later."
> </quote>

Interesting that you chose to take that out of context. Immediately
before the part you quoted:

: "We are going to include .Net Framework as an optional component, so
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: that a (PC maker) has the option to include it on their PCs,"
: Cullinan said.

> http://news.com.com/2100-1001-922066.html?tag=fd_lede


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[Frank Oquendo]

W.E.(Bill) Goodrich, PhD <bgoodric@netzero.net> had this to say:

> Interesting that you chose to take that out of context.

What's your point? The article specifically states that .NET will be
part of SP1 and that SP1 will be available through Windows Update. You
didn't refute Patrick's quote, you merely broadened it.

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[W.E.(Bill) Goodrich, PhD]

In article <3cee89dc$1@10.1.10.29>,
"Frank Oquendo" <franko at acadx dot com> writes:

> W.E.(Bill) Goodrich, PhD <bgoodric@netzero.net> had this to say:

> > Interesting that you chose to take that out of context.

> What's your point?

That there will be two versions of SP1 - with and without the .NET
framework. Who's headline and selective quote made it appear that
there would only be one SP1, and that it would include the f'work.

> The article specifically states that .NET will be part of SP1

No, it specifically states that the .NET framework will be an
"optional component" of SP1, aimed at manufacturers rather than end
users.

> and that SP1 will be available through Windows Update.

BOTH versions - with and without the optional framework.

> You didn't refute Patrick's quote, you merely broadened it.

I refuted the false implication in the way he presented it. Given the
likely difference in size, relatively few end users are likely to
download and use the larger SP1 version.

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[Patrick Troughton]

"W.E.(Bill) Goodrich, PhD" <bgoodric@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>Interesting that you chose to take that out of context.

It was not taken out of context, and even if it was, I posted an exact link
to the article from which I quoted which provides full context thus contradicting
your assertion.

/Pat

[Zane Thomas]

On Fri, 24 May 2002 12:51:42 -0600, "W.E.(Bill) Goodrich, PhD"
<bgoodric@netzero.net> wrote:

>: "We are going to include .Net Framework as an optional component, so
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Woohoo! Aren't you excited that it will be offered so easily to the winxp
users? I am. Might even be a recommended update (ie. most people will
just take it).


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[Frank Oquendo]

W.E.(Bill) Goodrich, PhD <bgoodric@netzero.net> had this to say:

>> The article specifically states that .NET will be part of SP1
>
> No, it specifically states that the .NET framework will be an
> "optional component" of SP1, aimed at manufacturers rather than end
> users.

You seem confused. All that can be reasonably concluded from the
article is that PC's will either come preloaded with the framework or
users can install it themselves.

I see nothing to support your claim. I'm not saying you're wrong. I am
saying that the article you're pointing to doesn't support your
statement.

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[Mike Mitchell]

On Fri, 24 May 2002 21:09:40 GMT, zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:

>........ (ie. most people will just take it).

Sure they will!

MM