Re: Is the Global.Asa file really necessary?

[Benjamin]

The global.asa file is a standard and takes advantage of the functionality
already created by microsoft. Sounds like your hosting providers are a bunch
of Crackheads! Try www.hostsearch.com to look for a better one. Or try
www.interland.com because they will wave the $50 set up fee most hosting
providers charge wen transfering from one of their competitors.

There is no way the glabal.asa file can crash iis so they should have no
reason to not let you use it. Most providers will have servers with 256
sites all using the global.asa file without any problems.

- good luck


"ChrisL" <info@mediamansion.com> wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>I'm having problems with my web host provider WebHosting.com. It seems
they
>can't comprehend the necessity of the global.asa file to set up session
variables
>and what not.
>
>I may have to modify my code to accomodate them. Is it possible to track
>session info like user information and global recordsets, as in shopping
>carts, some other way?
>
>Has anyone else dealt with webhosting.com. If so, what do you think. Is
>there a better host for the same price and supposedly support. I mean these
>guys claim to be the leaders in webhosting. I say, if that's the case then
>we best shut the net down right now and forget about it.
>
>If your interested, check out the nonsense at mediamansion.com.
>The sounds around site worked fine for one week, and then they had a crash.
> And now, regardless of my attempts, I can't get no satisfaction from these
>jokers.
>
>Please help.
>
>sincerely,
>
>
>thoroughly pissed off.
>

[BeverageNexus]

I use Innerhost. (http://www.innerhost.com/orders/signup1.asp?referral=13954)
I'm a VB/Access developer (since 92) trying to get hip to the ASP way.
I've heard not to use large objects in global.asa (like recordsets) since
it kills performance.
Innerhost seems to CATER to ASP people. Free setup,
I'm paying like $45/month.
Good luck.
Peace,
Matt
http://BeverageNexus.Com

"ChrisL" <info@mediamansion.com> wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>I'm having problems with my web host provider WebHosting.com. It seems
they
>can't comprehend the necessity of the global.asa file to set up session
variables
>and what not.
>
>I may have to modify my code to accomodate them. Is it possible to track
>session info like user information and global recordsets, as in shopping
>carts, some other way?
>
>Has anyone else dealt with webhosting.com. If so, what do you think. Is
>there a better host for the same price and supposedly support. I mean these
>guys claim to be the leaders in webhosting. I say, if that's the case then
>we best shut the net down right now and forget about it.
>
>If your interested, check out the nonsense at mediamansion.com.
>The sounds around site worked fine for one week, and then they had a crash.
> And now, regardless of my attempts, I can't get no satisfaction from these
>jokers.
>
>Please help.
>
>sincerely,
>
>
>thoroughly pissed off.
>

[Mike]

If your provider is using IIS4 and trying to run each hosted site in its
own isolated process space (good if you don't want to have one site crash
and burn the entire server), then you will find that the global.asa plays
up heaps. Often it simply refuses to function, so any attempt to initialise
session scope will fail. A lack of a global.asa file means you need to initialise
session at your first page and somehow control the site so that ALL users
enter through this page. Also, if the session timeout expires, you will loose
scope also. As mentioned in other responses, you could write every move to
a database or cookies... but this is a pain. Try Perl, you'll live a far
better life!!

"ChrisL" <info@mediamansion.com> wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>I'm having problems with my web host provider WebHosting.com. It seems
they
>can't comprehend the necessity of the global.asa file to set up session
variables
>and what not.
>
>I may have to modify my code to accomodate them. Is it possible to track
>session info like user information and global recordsets, as in shopping
>carts, some other way?
>
>Has anyone else dealt with webhosting.com. If so, what do you think. Is
>there a better host for the same price and supposedly support. I mean these
>guys claim to be the leaders in webhosting. I say, if that's the case then
>we best shut the net down right now and forget about it.
>
>If your interested, check out the nonsense at mediamansion.com.
>The sounds around site worked fine for one week, and then they had a crash.
> And now, regardless of my attempts, I can't get no satisfaction from these
>jokers.
>
>Please help.
>
>sincerely,
>
>
>thoroughly pissed off.
>

[monkeydust]

A cheap way to do a shopping cart on a session level is store items in a two
dimensional array. Not a great way to do it and the cart is lost upon the
session ending.

A better way to do it is to use a cookie and/or a unique id in the url to
identify the user. This id will match up with the user's cart items and
shopper info in the database. This is my prefered way to do it.

As for webhosting.com...
I have a couple of site hosted by them and I agree with your assesment of
them. I chose webhosting.com because of reviews that I read. My experience
with them has been horrible. I have seen on many occasions that their server
admin staff is incredibly incompetent. There have been many times that my
sites have been down for weeks due to incompetence on their part. I can't
understand how they can possibly stay in business with service and support
like that. I will certainly never use them again.

-k

"ChrisL" <info@mediamansion.com> wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>I'm having problems with my web host provider WebHosting.com. It seems
they
>can't comprehend the necessity of the global.asa file to set up session
variables
>and what not.
>
>I may have to modify my code to accomodate them. Is it possible to track
>session info like user information and global recordsets, as in shopping
>carts, some other way?
>
>Has anyone else dealt with webhosting.com. If so, what do you think. Is
>there a better host for the same price and supposedly support. I mean these
>guys claim to be the leaders in webhosting. I say, if that's the case then
>we best shut the net down right now and forget about it.
>
>If your interested, check out the nonsense at mediamansion.com.
>The sounds around site worked fine for one week, and then they had a crash.
> And now, regardless of my attempts, I can't get no satisfaction from these
>jokers.
>
>Please help.
>
>sincerely,
>
>
>thoroughly pissed off.
>

[Syd]

If the user doesn't have cookie support, then the global.asa file will not
work anyway (it will fire on every page, and re-set your session variables).

"Amar Galla" <AmarGalla@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>Simply use a database to keep track of user activity. I agree that it would
>increase database activity a lot. You can try using cookies as an
>alternative where user has cookies support.
>
>Apart from this the only way is to pass values using hidden form fields
but
>then that is too much of work. It would be a big problem to manage all the
>code.
>
>For hosting I would recommend hostpro.com . They seem to have grown a lot
>and offer exciting options. I have not hosted with them for a long time
as I
>now deal with intranet sites more ;o)
>
>
>Hope this helps,
>Amar
>
>
>
>ChrisL <info@mediamansion.com> wrote in message
>news:38be9f8f$1@news.devx.com...
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm having problems with my web host provider WebHosting.com. It seems
>they
>> can't comprehend the necessity of the global.asa file to set up session
>variables
>> and what not.
>>
>> I may have to modify my code to accomodate them. Is it possible to track
>> session info like user information and global recordsets, as in shopping
>> carts, some other way?
>>
>> Has anyone else dealt with webhosting.com. If so, what do you think.
Is
>> there a better host for the same price and supposedly support. I mean
>these
>> guys claim to be the leaders in webhosting. I say, if that's the case
>then
>> we best shut the net down right now and forget about it.
>>
>> If your interested, check out the nonsense at mediamansion.com.
>> The sounds around site worked fine for one week, and then they had a
>crash.
>> And now, regardless of my attempts, I can't get no satisfaction from
>these
>> jokers.
>>
>> Please help.
>>
>> sincerely,
>>
>>
>> thoroughly pissed off.
>>
>
>

[Leo]

Chris,

One other thing to check on you session variables is are they timing out?
Depending on your host and settings in your global.asa file the variables
may time out and then it looks like the host "lost" the variables. IIS's
default is 20 minutes for the time out and if you are running any kind of
shopping site, 20 minutes is sometimes nowhere near long enough. Try setting
Session.Timeout = X where X is minutes to time out in the Session_OnStart
in global.asa.

I am hosting several sites at Media3.net that including one right now that
can have about 30 Session variables in use at any given time. The cost is
between $19.95 and up per month for full ASP support, ASPQEmail and much
more. (Their also the only host I have found that hosts Crystal Reports
for the Web)Checkout www.auctionwizard.net (still under construction) which
is hosted at Media3 and uses a ton of Session variables throughout the site.



"ChrisL" <info@mediamansion.com> wrote:
>
>Hello,
>
>I'm having problems with my web host provider WebHosting.com. It seems
they
>can't comprehend the necessity of the global.asa file to set up session
variables
>and what not.
>
>I may have to modify my code to accomodate them. Is it possible to track
>session info like user information and global recordsets, as in shopping
>carts, some other way?
>
>Has anyone else dealt with webhosting.com. If so, what do you think. Is
>there a better host for the same price and supposedly support. I mean these
>guys claim to be the leaders in webhosting. I say, if that's the case then
>we best shut the net down right now and forget about it.
>
>If your interested, check out the nonsense at mediamansion.com.
>The sounds around site worked fine for one week, and then they had a crash.
> And now, regardless of my attempts, I can't get no satisfaction from these
>jokers.
>
>Please help.
>
>sincerely,
>
>
>thoroughly pissed off.
>

[Mike Oryszak]

I currently have 5 sites sitting on Innerhost servers and by far like them
the best. Some of their support people are VERY inexperienced, but overall
they do alright.

The accounts offer the most "power" features for the buck.

Mike Oryszak

"BeverageNexus" <beverage@beveragenexus.com> wrote:
>
>I use Innerhost. (http://www.innerhost.com/orders/signup1.asp?referral=13954)
>I'm a VB/Access developer (since 92) trying to get hip to the ASP way.
>I've heard not to use large objects in global.asa (like recordsets) since
>it kills performance.
>Innerhost seems to CATER to ASP people. Free setup,
>I'm paying like $45/month.
>Good luck.
>Peace,
>Matt
>http://BeverageNexus.Com
>
>"ChrisL" <info@mediamansion.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I'm having problems with my web host provider WebHosting.com. It seems
>they
>>can't comprehend the necessity of the global.asa file to set up session
>variables
>>and what not.
>>
>>I may have to modify my code to accomodate them. Is it possible to track
>>session info like user information and global recordsets, as in shopping
>>carts, some other way?
>>
>>Has anyone else dealt with webhosting.com. If so, what do you think.
Is
>>there a better host for the same price and supposedly support. I mean
these
>>guys claim to be the leaders in webhosting. I say, if that's the case
then
>>we best shut the net down right now and forget about it.
>>
>>If your interested, check out the nonsense at mediamansion.com.
>>The sounds around site worked fine for one week, and then they had a crash.
>> And now, regardless of my attempts, I can't get no satisfaction from these
>>jokers.
>>
>>Please help.
>>
>>sincerely,
>>
>>
>>thoroughly pissed off.
>>
>