Hi,
with the release of VisualStudio .NET , will Java survive???
As I read, .NET contains all Java features, plus having a good developing
environment, plus being from MS which will make it gain big popularity &
support..
I have a good knowledge in C++, but starting to get deeper regarding software
& internet developing & confused which to choose:
Java or .NET ???
01-30-2002, 08:02 AM
MarkN
Re: Java or .NET ???
Java will survive (according to my crystal ball). It continues to improve,
runs on almost all platforms, and is supported by all major vendors except
MS. Java will not go away. There is a major push to Linux on the server.
.Net currently doesn't got there and viably won't for a long time. And
since most 'internet' processing occurs server-side ... .
Yes, .Net has a good IDE but the only good one is from MS. Yes, you can
code in different languages in .Net, but they have to conform to the same
rules for this to be usefully and most(if not all) of the languages available
for .Net were created by MS or paid to be created by MS. .Net doesn't contain
all of Java's features and .Net has some things Java doesn't.
You can't go 'wrong' (employment wise) with either one. Find out what kind
of work you can get. Most big cities have Java development going on. There
is some .Net work going on and it is growing. For the most part, I would
venture a guess it is mostly to replace current Windows development(i.e.
"were going to use VB, now VB.Net") and not displacing Java. In London,
they are desparately looking for J2EE programmers.
I think .Net is really cool but most of what is being said for it and against
Java is FUD and smoke and mirrors. For distributed computing I would choose
Java over .Net.
Mark
"radi" <radi@prgrammer.net> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>with the release of VisualStudio .NET , will Java survive???
>As I read, .NET contains all Java features, plus having a good developing
>environment, plus being from MS which will make it gain big popularity &
>support..
>
>I have a good knowledge in C++, but starting to get deeper regarding software
>& internet developing & confused which to choose:
>Java or .NET ???
>
02-03-2002, 12:06 PM
sunny
Re: Java or .NET ???
Java will survive and still improve
Visual Studio .NET is really cool. But It cannot beat Java when comes for
OS Independence and Security. Java is very flexible and robust for developing
especially Network based applications.
"radi" <radi@prgrammer.net> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>with the release of VisualStudio .NET , will Java survive???
>As I read, .NET contains all Java features, plus having a good developing
>environment, plus being from MS which will make it gain big popularity &
>support..
>
>I have a good knowledge in C++, but starting to get deeper regarding software
>& internet developing & confused which to choose:
>Java or .NET ???
>
02-03-2002, 03:57 PM
Ray Clough
Re: Java or .NET ???
I used to be a big MS supporter -- not any more. When I see the top MS execs
saying that Java is "just for downloading little programs" over the net,
it yanks my chain. They invented C# because they were aware of the limitations
of VB and C++. C# looks almost exactly like Java. Coincidence???? Hardly!!!!
I have been developing in Visual Studio for years, and consider myself fairly
expert in it. Now, however, if I never write another line of Microsoft Code
it will be fine with me. Other factors (eg employment) being the same, you
might want to consider the ethics of the company to which you are linking
yourself. Microsoft is a bunch of elitist bastards who need to some lessons
on personal conduct (probably personal grooming, too, but I've never met
them in person). I'm not saying that SUN is anyone's best friend, either,
but there are alot of really excellent programmers doing lots of open source
programming, which you can get for free. Why pay MS when you can get a better
product for nothing. (Except there does not seem to be a really good free
Java IDE - at least not that I've heard of).
For Server side development, at least, I recommend Java. It is unfortunately
true, that on the desktop side, Java is slow. I just wrote a desktop Java
program which takes about 24 hours to import some large text files to a database.
I'm pretty sure the VB equivalent would work in 8 hours. Typical server-side
processing is not likely to produce any noticeable speed difference, however.
- Ray Clough rayclough@msn.com
"sunny" <sunnythegeek@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>Java will survive and still improve
>Visual Studio .NET is really cool. But It cannot beat Java when comes for
>OS Independence and Security. Java is very flexible and robust for developing
>especially Network based applications.
>"radi" <radi@prgrammer.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>with the release of VisualStudio .NET , will Java survive???
>>As I read, .NET contains all Java features, plus having a good developing
>>environment, plus being from MS which will make it gain big popularity
&
>>support..
>>
>>I have a good knowledge in C++, but starting to get deeper regarding software
>>& internet developing & confused which to choose:
>>Java or .NET ???
>>
>