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Hi,
Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train all
existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good books
for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?
Thanks
Mark
"Mark Overstreet" <mark.overstreet@mail.state.ky.us> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train all
>existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
>for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good
books
>for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?
>
>Thanks
>Mark
>
>
>
I was in a similar situation just a few months ago. I am a VB programmer,
although lately I have just been doing VBS,ASP,HTA stuff. Because of our
clients requirements we had to learn Java (their server platform is HP/UX).
So I started searching for a "good getting started" book. I didnīt really
find one. I was lucky to have full internet access and the JDK API Docs
on line. I have already done some Java Servlets and JSP programming in just
2 months since I started with JAVA.
Sunīs Java web site (http://developer.java.sun.com) is the best resource
to learn Java. Just print out some of their tutorials and follow them.
Then try som simple programs. One thing I miss from the VB is the visual
form designer. There isnīt anything like it in the Java world. Luckily
all of our development is server side using DHTML for the client side because
designing a form in Java is a pain.
HTH
Bye
Javier
My two cents worth.....
I don't know of a book that caters developers coming from a VB
background...but the books that helped me are O'Reilly's Java in a Nutshell,
and Java Examples in a Nutshell. There are many sites out there that are
just as valuable, though. If you don't have much of an OO understanding
then http://www.mindview.net/TIJ2/index.html contains the book, Thinking in
Java by Bruce Eckel, which is free for download.
"Mark Overstreet" <mark.overstreet@mail.state.ky.us> wrote in message
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>
> Hi,
>
> Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train all
> existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
> for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good
books
> for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?
>
> Thanks
> Mark
>
>
>
Javier--
if u miss the GUI ....in VB try JBuilder......i've had it installed for over
2 years and really do like it a lot. take care,
"Javier Soques" <jsoques@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>"Mark Overstreet" <mark.overstreet@mail.state.ky.us> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train
all
>>existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
>>for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good
>books
>>for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Mark
>>
>>
>>
>
>I was in a similar situation just a few months ago. I am a VB programmer,
>although lately I have just been doing VBS,ASP,HTA stuff. Because of our
>clients requirements we had to learn Java (their server platform is HP/UX).
> So I started searching for a "good getting started" book. I didnīt really
>find one. I was lucky to have full internet access and the JDK API Docs
>on line. I have already done some Java Servlets and JSP programming in
just
>2 months since I started with JAVA.
>
>Sunīs Java web site (http://developer.java.sun.com) is the best resource
>to learn Java. Just print out some of their tutorials and follow them.
>Then try som simple programs. One thing I miss from the VB is the visual
>form designer. There isnīt anything like it in the Java world. Luckily
>all of our development is server side using DHTML for the client side because
>designing a form in Java is a pain.
>
>HTH
>Bye
>Javier
"Mark Overstreet" <mark.overstreet@mail.state.ky.us> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train all
>existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
>for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good
books
>for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?
>
>Thanks
>Mark
>
>
>
Mark -- Too bad -- VB is more suitable for certain things, and the learning
curve for java has been, for me, triple, what it was for VB.
Still, Java is exciting, and in the long run, very useful.
I have gravitated to Sun's "Core" series. The first two books I would recommend,
would be "Just Java" and "Core Java2 Volume 1". But there is plenty of good
stuff out there. If you're an online book buyer, fatbrain.com routinely
charges 10 - 20% less than Amazon, and is a quality operation.
Others' recommendation to use Sun's developer site, is right on. Much good
free stuff there.
We were trained almost from "zero" starting a year ago, and we're just wrapping
up our first major project, using Visual Age for Java and Websphere. Training
recommendation:
-- If you can swing it, start with a one-week course in object-oriented analysis
& design. Or at least, try to work that in before you get too far down the
road.
-- a one week course on Java's basics, just using the Java JDK. If you start
trying to use VAJ at the beginning, you may spend time being confused between
the language and the tool.
-- a one week VAJ course. IBM offers 3 - 4 similar-but-different courses.
If you get to go, be sure to pick the one that emphasizes what you will
be doing (applets? servlets? applications?). Be careful to recognize there
are similarly named elementary courses which focus on learning OO, using
some Java -- compared to others, focusing more strongly on the language as
done within VAJ.
-- the one week Websphere Server / Websphere Studio course. You can get
along without this, especially if you are working with a Websphere-experienced
developer.
And yes, designing your first visual front-end with Java, even VAJ, should
not be done near the window of a tall building. VAJ helps Java GUI-building
feel a LITTLE like VB, but not much.
Have fun!
Mike
Hi
The site that i found That i thought was good is Java 1.1 Interactive Course.
Which is found at http://www.itknowledge.com/reference...832/ewtoc.html
"Mark Overstreet" <mark.overstreet@mail.state.ky.us> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train all
>existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
>for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good
books
>for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?
>
>Thanks
>Mark
>
>
>
Well,
There is no way or resources to teach VB to Java. For VB programmers
its a whole new world as far as application concerns,but web development
would be easy for you if you know ASP. Since, you are using VAJ and webSphere
go IBM site thats the best resource for their product. for java, use web
thats the best resource for learning java. YOU MUST KNOW OO FUNDAMENTALS
AND THATS THE HARD PART OF LEARNING JAVA I STRONGLY SUGGEST GET SOME C++
OR OO DESIGN CLASSES AND READ A LOT ABOUT IT.
"John Butorac" <jbutorac@nlamerica.com> wrote:
>My two cents worth.....
>I don't know of a book that caters developers coming from a VB
>background...but the books that helped me are O'Reilly's Java in a Nutshell,
>and Java Examples in a Nutshell. There are many sites out there that are
>just as valuable, though. If you don't have much of an OO understanding
>then http://www.mindview.net/TIJ2/index.html contains the book, Thinking
in
>Java by Bruce Eckel, which is free for download.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Mark Overstreet" <mark.overstreet@mail.state.ky.us> wrote in message
>news:3a5dcd34$1@news.devx.com...
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train
all
>> existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
>> for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good
>books
>> for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Try IBM's developer works site - great examples, how-to' and free online
courses...
