why?

Hi,

I was wondering, what's the deal with Java then? I hear (still hear) a lotof
buzz around it but as a web-space-navigator I find very little evidence of
it really being used... So. whats the use? where? how? and why should I even
bother thinking about it?

I've been working as a web developer/interface designer for the past five
years and finally decided to go coding/programming in stead of designing..
(took me awhile but here i am) So now I want to know where to start..

In this forum I hear lots about java this-and-that but as a developer in the
field i've never actually come across real interesting java-applications..
apart from an endless list of weird-unusable games, arty 3d wiremodel
generators and the occasional chatbox which would inevitably crash my
browser.. Now a lot of this kindof functionality is taken over by flash
(they even got some desent chatboxes outthere) and in time even more so...
so why java?

what do they use java for? why should I want to learn java? (apart from it
maybe being fun that is.. :))

patch

(oh, btw, this is just my way of trying to ask, not a flame-war-request..
i'm not slaggin off java, just want to know the worth..)

I developed a web app using ASP, VB, and Oracle for a commercial product.
Once, my company offered this product to a small company. Actually, the
company was intereted to the product. But the bad thing was, they already
had a Linux box and it's too expensive to buy a Windows Machine (plus Oracle
for DBMS)

Now, we're developing in Java and JSP. Just write once, deploy in Linux,
Windows, or Solaris without re-coding. And It can be no-cost (using Linux,
Apache web server, MySQL db, Tomcat) or with powerfull infrastructure
(Solaris and Oracle).

In my case, Java is a very good solution. I think Java is good for server
application. But as desktop appliction it's quite slower than non-Java.

"patch" <pretpet@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3cfd6aa8$1@10.1.10.29...
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering, what's the deal with Java then? I hear (still hear) a
lotof
> buzz around it but as a web-space-navigator I find very little evidence of
> it really being used... So. whats the use? where? how? and why should I
even
> bother thinking about it?
>
> I've been working as a web developer/interface designer for the past five
> years and finally decided to go coding/programming in stead of designing..
> (took me awhile but here i am) So now I want to know where to start..
>
> In this forum I hear lots about java this-and-that but as a developer in
the
> field i've never actually come across real interesting java-applications..
> apart from an endless list of weird-unusable games, arty 3d wiremodel
> generators and the occasional chatbox which would inevitably crash my
> browser.. Now a lot of this kindof functionality is taken over by flash
> (they even got some desent chatboxes outthere) and in time even more so...
> so why java?
>
> what do they use java for? why should I want to learn java? (apart from it
> maybe being fun that is.. :))
>
> patch
>
> (oh, btw, this is just my way of trying to ask, not a flame-war-request..
> i'm not slaggin off java, just want to know the worth..)
>
>
>

"Andik Yulianto" <andik@promeasys.com> wrote:
>I developed a web app using ASP, VB, and Oracle for a commercial product.
>Once, my company offered this product to a small company. Actually, the
>company was intereted to the product. But the bad thing was, they already
>had a Linux box and it's too expensive to buy a Windows Machine (plus Oracle
>for DBMS)
>
>Now, we're developing in Java and JSP. Just write once, deploy in Linux,
>Windows, or Solaris without re-coding. And It can be no-cost (using Linux,
>Apache web server, MySQL db, Tomcat) or with powerfull infrastructure
>(Solaris and Oracle).

I'm seeing more of this, especially with the new licensing scheme by MS.

>
>In my case, Java is a very good solution. I think Java is good for server
>application. But as desktop appliction it's quite slower than non-Java.
>

But for most applications this is perfectly fine. We are doing it and we
have very complicated screens.

Mark