Learning JSP or ASP after Java:

[JayinMichigan]

Hello ... thank you all who have responded in the past; your insight has been
most helpful!

At any rate, I've decided to go ahead and finish off the final class that'll
map me to the Java Certification. Then I'll apply as many applications as
I can here at work to get "real life" experience.

Additionally, however, I'd like to get some more experience. I'm thinking
that while it'd be beneficial to have Microsoft applications knowledge, since
I'll have already learned Java in a short bit, I might as well expound on
learning JSP, rather than concentrating on ASP; it's Sun's equivallent to
ASP, from what I've gathered.

So I hope to have a decent background in Java and JSP. This leads to my
question. Well, actually, I have three (being selfish!):

1) Do you think this is a good plan (what I'm doing)?
2) If so, in learning JSP -- which from what I understand can do the same
things as ASP -- would you recommend I do it via buying a book, or
should I pay for another expensive class?
3) To round out skills and prepare for a nice job, would I need to add
some sort of database knowledge, such as SQL?

Thanks to everyone for your advice,

Jay

[simon]

Jay,

IMHO, if you haven't learned ASP by now, maybe you should hold off and learn
JSP first. ASP 3.0 is going to be replaced by ASP.NET and it will be very
different... like no more VBScript, just to name one.

It is about the same to learn from a book or a class, either one will get
you started, but neither one will get you the "real life" experience. It is
up to you to practice on your "real life" projects to come to perfection.
The only difference between a book and a class is that a class has a real
person that you can interact with. Therefore, it depends on whether you
like to learn on your own or you like to talk to an instructor. And of
course, if you don't have the money, maybe you should buy a book now, and
let your "future" employer pays for the "expensive" classes later.

There is no way you can call yourself a professional developer if you do not
have database knowledge. Period. Learning SQL will be very valuable to your
career. Two out of the three most popular databases (Oracle, MS SQL Server,
and AS400) are SQL-based.

Hope this helps.

simon.



"JayinMichigan" <Lockeja1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:3b266686$1@news.devx.com...
>
> Hello ... thank you all who have responded in the past; your insight has
been
> most helpful!
>
> At any rate, I've decided to go ahead and finish off the final class
that'll
> map me to the Java Certification. Then I'll apply as many applications as
> I can here at work to get "real life" experience.
>
> Additionally, however, I'd like to get some more experience. I'm thinking
> that while it'd be beneficial to have Microsoft applications knowledge,
since
> I'll have already learned Java in a short bit, I might as well expound on
> learning JSP, rather than concentrating on ASP; it's Sun's equivallent to
> ASP, from what I've gathered.
>
> So I hope to have a decent background in Java and JSP. This leads to my
> question. Well, actually, I have three (being selfish!):
>
> 1) Do you think this is a good plan (what I'm doing)?
> 2) If so, in learning JSP -- which from what I understand can do the same
> things as ASP -- would you recommend I do it via buying a book, or
> should I pay for another expensive class?
> 3) To round out skills and prepare for a nice job, would I need to add
> some sort of database knowledge, such as SQL?
>
> Thanks to everyone for your advice,
>
> Jay

[JayinMichigan]

Thank you very much for your advice, Simon; much appreciated. I will take
a class on SQL when I'm finished with the Java/JSP course. A short-term
hit to the pocketbook may bring long-term relief (I hope!),

Jay




"simon" <substring0@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Jay,
>
>IMHO, if you haven't learned ASP by now, maybe you should hold off and learn
>JSP first. ASP 3.0 is going to be replaced by ASP.NET and it will be very
>different... like no more VBScript, just to name one.
>
>It is about the same to learn from a book or a class, either one will get
>you started, but neither one will get you the "real life" experience. It
is
>up to you to practice on your "real life" projects to come to perfection.
>The only difference between a book and a class is that a class has a real
>person that you can interact with. Therefore, it depends on whether you
>like to learn on your own or you like to talk to an instructor. And of
>course, if you don't have the money, maybe you should buy a book now, and
>let your "future" employer pays for the "expensive" classes later.
>
>There is no way you can call yourself a professional developer if you do
not
>have database knowledge. Period. Learning SQL will be very valuable to
your
>career. Two out of the three most popular databases (Oracle, MS SQL Server,
>and AS400) are SQL-based.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>simon.
>
>
>
>"JayinMichigan" <Lockeja1@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:3b266686$1@news.devx.com...
>>
>> Hello ... thank you all who have responded in the past; your insight has
>been
>> most helpful!
>>
>> At any rate, I've decided to go ahead and finish off the final class
>that'll
>> map me to the Java Certification. Then I'll apply as many applications
as
>> I can here at work to get "real life" experience.
>>
>> Additionally, however, I'd like to get some more experience. I'm thinking
>> that while it'd be beneficial to have Microsoft applications knowledge,
>since
>> I'll have already learned Java in a short bit, I might as well expound
on
>> learning JSP, rather than concentrating on ASP; it's Sun's equivallent
to
>> ASP, from what I've gathered.
>>
>> So I hope to have a decent background in Java and JSP. This leads to
my
>> question. Well, actually, I have three (being selfish!):
>>
>> 1) Do you think this is a good plan (what I'm doing)?
>> 2) If so, in learning JSP -- which from what I understand can do the same
>> things as ASP -- would you recommend I do it via buying a book, or
>> should I pay for another expensive class?
>> 3) To round out skills and prepare for a nice job, would I need to add
>> some sort of database knowledge, such as SQL?
>>
>> Thanks to everyone for your advice,
>>
>> Jay
>
>