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  1. #1
    Carl Guest

    Masters degree or Specialize?


    I graduated in March of 2002 and am going work on a Masters in the fall. I
    have two options a general masters degree or I could receive a masters certificate
    which is basically masters level courses, which allow you to specialize in
    a certain area of IT such as software engineering.

    Would specializing be a good idea if so would a company recognize a masters
    certificate the same as a general masters?

    Thanks for the help.


  2. #2
    Elena Guest

    Re: Masters degree or Specialize?


    Carl, I'm not familiar with the term "masters certificate" - - usually it's
    a Master of Science or a Master of Arts. Colleges do play around with IT
    degrees. Most are issued as M.S. but occasionally one shows up as an M.A.
    My alma mater offers 4 graduate programs in computer engineering and IT,
    but they are all M.S. degrees. I'll assume by masters certificate you mean
    some flavor of M.A. or M.S. from an accredited university or college (and
    not some shortened version issued by a non-accredited institution.)

    Most corporate employers do not make these very fine distinctions based on
    individual courses included in your program - - a graduate degree is a graduate
    degree. Maybe if you were headed for some kind of research institute or
    university this would not be the case. If you're headed for corporate America,
    then I'd take the program that interested you the most and fit with the type
    of work you'd most like to do. The key decision you've made here is that
    you want to do a grad degree.

    May I ask what type of work you'd like to do upon completion of this degree?

    Elena



    "Carl" <carlwjenkins@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >I graduated in March of 2002 and am going work on a Masters in the fall.

    I
    >have two options a general masters degree or I could receive a masters certificate
    >which is basically masters level courses, which allow you to specialize

    in
    >a certain area of IT such as software engineering.
    >
    >Would specializing be a good idea if so would a company recognize a masters
    >certificate the same as a general masters?
    >
    >Thanks for the help.
    >



  3. #3
    Steve Guest

    Re: Masters degree or Specialize?


    The certs that you have from school mean absolutely diddley. A "few" companies
    will demand University degrees or Masters over Colleges etc. or demand things
    like M$ certifications, but most do not.

    Stuff like that may help you find your first job if you present it positively,
    but not much beyond that. Experience, Experience, Experience.

    However, like someone else said, if your target is areas like education and
    research, then your education will matter.

    Steve.


    "Carl" <carlwjenkins@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >I graduated in March of 2002 and am going work on a Masters in the fall.

    I
    >have two options a general masters degree or I could receive a masters certificate
    >which is basically masters level courses, which allow you to specialize

    in
    >a certain area of IT such as software engineering.
    >
    >Would specializing be a good idea if so would a company recognize a masters
    >certificate the same as a general masters?
    >
    >Thanks for the help.
    >



  4. #4
    Carl Guest

    Re: Masters degree or Specialize?


    The college is accredited. It's IIT Illinois Institute of Technology. I have
    heard good things about them.

    The degree is basically a specilization in software engineering. (the one
    I am considering.)




    >May I ask what type of work you'd like to do upon completion of this degree?


    I am looking into software engineering.





    "Elena" <egermano@comcast.net> wrote:
    >
    >Carl, I'm not familiar with the term "masters certificate" - - usually

    it's
    >a Master of Science or a Master of Arts. Colleges do play around with IT
    >degrees. Most are issued as M.S. but occasionally one shows up as an M.A.
    >My alma mater offers 4 graduate programs in computer engineering and IT,
    >but they are all M.S. degrees. I'll assume by masters certificate you mean
    >some flavor of M.A. or M.S. from an accredited university or college (and
    >not some shortened version issued by a non-accredited institution.)
    >
    >Most corporate employers do not make these very fine distinctions based

    on
    >individual courses included in your program - - a graduate degree is a graduate
    >degree. Maybe if you were headed for some kind of research institute or
    >university this would not be the case. If you're headed for corporate America,
    >then I'd take the program that interested you the most and fit with the

    type
    >of work you'd most like to do. The key decision you've made here is that
    >you want to do a grad degree.
    >
    >May I ask what type of work you'd like to do upon completion of this degree?
    >
    >Elena
    >
    >
    >
    >"Carl" <carlwjenkins@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>I graduated in March of 2002 and am going work on a Masters in the fall.

    >I
    >>have two options a general masters degree or I could receive a masters

    certificate
    >>which is basically masters level courses, which allow you to specialize

    >in
    >>a certain area of IT such as software engineering.
    >>
    >>Would specializing be a good idea if so would a company recognize a masters
    >>certificate the same as a general masters?
    >>
    >>Thanks for the help.
    >>

    >



  5. #5
    Carl Guest

    Re: Masters degree or Specialize?


    Don't think that having a masters plus experience would be even more benifical?

    That is my goal. I would like to be more marketable than the next guy who
    may not have the masters degree.


    "Steve" <stevepyn@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >The certs that you have from school mean absolutely diddley. A "few" companies
    >will demand University degrees or Masters over Colleges etc. or demand things
    >like M$ certifications, but most do not.
    >
    >Stuff like that may help you find your first job if you present it positively,
    >but not much beyond that. Experience, Experience, Experience.
    >
    >However, like someone else said, if your target is areas like education

    and
    >research, then your education will matter.
    >
    >Steve.
    >
    >
    >"Carl" <carlwjenkins@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>I graduated in March of 2002 and am going work on a Masters in the fall.

    >I
    >>have two options a general masters degree or I could receive a masters

    certificate
    >>which is basically masters level courses, which allow you to specialize

    >in
    >>a certain area of IT such as software engineering.
    >>
    >>Would specializing be a good idea if so would a company recognize a masters
    >>certificate the same as a general masters?
    >>
    >>Thanks for the help.
    >>

    >



  6. #6
    Steve Guest

    Re: Masters degree or Specialize?


    In my experience, not really. There will be some companies out there that
    will factor it in, but I've never seen it as either an "interview vs. no-interview"
    or a deciding factor in the interview. Experience, and your skill at presenting
    that experience will always be the determining factor. (And I've personally
    been in a situation where an employer had to choose me between one nearly
    identical candidate. The deciding factor was Personality.

    It may help, but just adding "Masters" to your resume won't likely land you
    a job that your resume without "Masters" wouldn't. It will matter if you
    see a lot of positions posted where they require a masters, but "most" are
    looking for a certain level of post-secondary education and/or work experience.
    If you land an interview, then that's grand, but in that interview, you having
    a Masters from a University will have little bearing up against Joe that
    has a diploma from a College when both of you have relatively the same amount
    of experience. It also isn't likely going to get you interviews with companies
    looking for more experience than you have. I learn't the hard way that good
    education does *not* substitute for experience.

    For anyone wanting to make a good impression on a potential employer, my
    advice is to list your skills point form to get past the initial screenings.
    Be susinct and direct with your career history. (don't swamp a reader with
    irrelevant details) Be honest, and state your goals and objectives. Show
    creativity in both your resume presentation, and by adding things like a
    website with code samples and additional information.

    I've also found that "customizing" your resume, and especially a cover letter
    can go a long way to getting into the interviewee's seat. It shows genuine
    interest in their company, not that you're just looking for *any* employer.

    Steve.

    "Carl " <carlwjenkins@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >Don't think that having a masters plus experience would be even more benifical?
    >
    >That is my goal. I would like to be more marketable than the next guy who
    >may not have the masters degree.
    >
    >
    >"Steve" <stevepyn@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>The certs that you have from school mean absolutely diddley. A "few" companies
    >>will demand University degrees or Masters over Colleges etc. or demand

    things
    >>like M$ certifications, but most do not.
    >>
    >>Stuff like that may help you find your first job if you present it positively,
    >>but not much beyond that. Experience, Experience, Experience.
    >>
    >>However, like someone else said, if your target is areas like education

    >and
    >>research, then your education will matter.
    >>
    >>Steve.
    >>
    >>
    >>"Carl" <carlwjenkins@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>I graduated in March of 2002 and am going work on a Masters in the fall.

    >>I
    >>>have two options a general masters degree or I could receive a masters

    >certificate
    >>>which is basically masters level courses, which allow you to specialize

    >>in
    >>>a certain area of IT such as software engineering.
    >>>
    >>>Would specializing be a good idea if so would a company recognize a masters
    >>>certificate the same as a general masters?
    >>>
    >>>Thanks for the help.
    >>>

    >>

    >



  7. #7
    patch Guest

    Re: Masters degree or Specialize?

    Carl,
    my 0.02cts would be that right now you'd better use the time spend on
    getting that "masters" title on getting hands-on experience. Preferably of
    the visible type..
    and then on a later time (if time/finance/situation permits) persue the
    title by other means... (courses, certification.. IF possible)..

    I can imagine "hands on experience" probably prepares you a lot better for
    your masters than your "masters" will do for day-to-day practise...

    patch

    ps. here in holland we got a different system but the titles are kindof
    similair so I assumed it IS possible to get this grade at a later time (if
    you still want it that is)

    Carl wrote in message <3d4abcfb$1@10.1.10.29>...
    >
    >Don't think that having a masters plus experience would be even more

    benifical?
    >
    >That is my goal. I would like to be more marketable than the next guy who
    >may not have the masters degree.
    >
    >
    >"Steve" <stevepyn@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>The certs that you have from school mean absolutely diddley. A "few"

    companies
    >>will demand University degrees or Masters over Colleges etc. or demand

    things
    >>like M$ certifications, but most do not.
    >>
    >>Stuff like that may help you find your first job if you present it

    positively,
    >>but not much beyond that. Experience, Experience, Experience.
    >>
    >>However, like someone else said, if your target is areas like education

    >and
    >>research, then your education will matter.
    >>
    >>Steve.
    >>
    >>
    >>"Carl" <carlwjenkins@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>I graduated in March of 2002 and am going work on a Masters in the fall.

    >>I
    >>>have two options a general masters degree or I could receive a masters

    >certificate
    >>>which is basically masters level courses, which allow you to specialize

    >>in
    >>>a certain area of IT such as software engineering.
    >>>
    >>>Would specializing be a good idea if so would a company recognize a

    masters
    >>>certificate the same as a general masters?
    >>>
    >>>Thanks for the help.
    >>>

    >>

    >




  8. #8
    Carl Guest

    Re: Masters degree or Specialize?


    Thanks for the help... it was worth every penny



    "patch" <pretpet@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >Carl,
    >my 0.02cts would be that right now you'd better use the time spend on
    >getting that "masters" title on getting hands-on experience. Preferably

    of
    >the visible type..
    >and then on a later time (if time/finance/situation permits) persue the
    >title by other means... (courses, certification.. IF possible)..
    >
    >I can imagine "hands on experience" probably prepares you a lot better for
    >your masters than your "masters" will do for day-to-day practise...
    >
    >patch
    >
    >ps. here in holland we got a different system but the titles are kindof
    >similair so I assumed it IS possible to get this grade at a later time (if
    >you still want it that is)
    >
    >Carl wrote in message <3d4abcfb$1@10.1.10.29>...
    >>
    >>Don't think that having a masters plus experience would be even more

    >benifical?
    >>
    >>That is my goal. I would like to be more marketable than the next guy who
    >>may not have the masters degree.
    >>
    >>
    >>"Steve" <stevepyn@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>The certs that you have from school mean absolutely diddley. A "few"

    >companies
    >>>will demand University degrees or Masters over Colleges etc. or demand

    >things
    >>>like M$ certifications, but most do not.
    >>>
    >>>Stuff like that may help you find your first job if you present it

    >positively,
    >>>but not much beyond that. Experience, Experience, Experience.
    >>>
    >>>However, like someone else said, if your target is areas like education

    >>and
    >>>research, then your education will matter.
    >>>
    >>>Steve.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>"Carl" <carlwjenkins@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>I graduated in March of 2002 and am going work on a Masters in the fall.
    >>>I
    >>>>have two options a general masters degree or I could receive a masters

    >>certificate
    >>>>which is basically masters level courses, which allow you to specialize
    >>>in
    >>>>a certain area of IT such as software engineering.
    >>>>
    >>>>Would specializing be a good idea if so would a company recognize a

    >masters
    >>>>certificate the same as a general masters?
    >>>>
    >>>>Thanks for the help.
    >>>>
    >>>

    >>

    >
    >



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