Why's It So Quiet Today?

[Alex Yakhnin]

>Why's It So Quiet Today?

Everybody is trying to remember the Brian's memorandum by heart



zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:
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>DF is dead, get over it. :-)
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>You're just mad because the voices don't talk to you.

[Zane Thomas]

DF is dead, get over it. :-)



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Z

You're just mad because the voices don't talk to you.

[Michael \(michka\) Kaplan]

DF is actually not just dead.... it was killed. And the coroner, a VB6 fan,
has declared it a wrongful death.

I am very happy to be in C++ at the moment, myself. Its fun remembering how
much more you can do without fighting your language. :-)

I may be back to help people understand the international features, but I
will wait until the feature list and most importantly the cut list is
finalized before I bother.... people are having their hopes dashed enough
around here.....

--
MichKa

random junk of dubious value at the
multilingual http://www.trigeminal.com/ and
a new book on internationalization in VB at
http://www.i18nWithVB.com/

"Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
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> You're just mad because the voices don't talk to you.

[Bill McCarthy]

Haven't you ever heard of "a moment's silence for the dead "? Geez, the lack
of respect for VB is really astounding.



"Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
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[Jonathan Wood]

Not exactly. There's still C++, Delphi, et. al.

--
Jonathan Wood
SoftCircuits Programming
http://www.softcircuits.com

"Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
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> You're just mad because the voices don't talk to you.

[Daniel Pratt]

I guess until I find a concrete definition for DF, I can't say that C++
doesn't have it, so I'll put it to you like this: IMHO, I don't believe that
most people would find C++'s brand of scope-based destruction to be an
acceptable replacement for VB6's DF behavior. They are definitely not the
same. In fact, depending on the scenario, the knowledge that *all* objects,
shared and otherwise, will terminate *eventually* in a GC system may be
preferable.
OTOH, I would really like to see C++-style scope-based "destruction"
make it into VB/C#. In my way of thinking, a method-local scoped object
would have it's Dispose method called at the end of the method, and a
member-local scoped object would have it's Dispose method called when the
parent object's Dispose method was called. Brian's syntactic sugar might cut
it for the method-local case, but...
I don't know enough about Delphi to comment on it.

Regards,
Dan

"Jonathan Wood" <jwood@softcircuits.com> wrote in message
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> Not exactly. There's still C++, Delphi, et. al.
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> Jonathan Wood
> SoftCircuits Programming
> http://www.softcircuits.com
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> "Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
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[David Zajac]

Delphi lacks Garbage Collection; it has Deterministic Finalization.
Non-Interfaced objects must be freed by the user. Interfaced Objects are
automatically managed by the environment utilizing reference counting
(almost exactly like VB).

I used to have GC envy. After following these discussions, I'm cured.


"Daniel Pratt" <dprREMOVETHISatt71@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I don't know enough about Delphi to comment on it.
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> Regards,
> Dan
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[Bob O`Bob]

Daniel Pratt wrote:

> In fact, depending on the scenario, the knowledge that *all* objects,
> shared and otherwise, will terminate *eventually* in a GC system may be
> preferable.


Might be useful.


Too bad it's not true.




Bob O`Bob
--
I see the writing on the wall, and even without my reading glasses,
can discern that many of the four-letter-words start with "J".

[Robert Kozak]

Don't forget Strings. All Delphi long strings are automatically refcounted
by the compiler and are freed when they go out of scope.

-- Robert Kozak

"David Zajac" <dzajac@Hiwaay.net> wrote in message
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> Delphi lacks Garbage Collection; it has Deterministic Finalization.
> Non-Interfaced objects must be freed by the user. Interfaced Objects are
> automatically managed by the environment utilizing reference counting
> (almost exactly like VB).
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> I used to have GC envy. After following these discussions, I'm cured.
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> "Daniel Pratt" <dprREMOVETHISatt71@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:39de304b$1@news.devx.com...
> > I don't know enough about Delphi to comment on it.
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> > Regards,
> > Dan
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