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  1. #1
    Alex Yakhnin Guest

    Re: Why's It So Quiet Today?


    >Why's It So Quiet Today?


    Everybody is trying to remember the Brian's memorandum by heart



    zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:
    >
    >
    >DF is dead, get over it. :-)
    >
    >
    >
    >---
    >Z
    >
    >You're just mad because the voices don't talk to you.



  2. #2
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Why's It So Quiet Today?



    DF is dead, get over it. :-)



    ---
    Z

    You're just mad because the voices don't talk to you.

  3. #3
    Michael \(michka\) Kaplan Guest

    Re: Why's It So Quiet Today?

    DF is actually not just dead.... it was killed. And the coroner, a VB6 fan,
    has declared it a wrongful death.

    I am very happy to be in C++ at the moment, myself. Its fun remembering how
    much more you can do without fighting your language. :-)

    I may be back to help people understand the international features, but I
    will wait until the feature list and most importantly the cut list is
    finalized before I bother.... people are having their hopes dashed enough
    around here.....

    --
    MichKa

    random junk of dubious value at the
    multilingual http://www.trigeminal.com/ and
    a new book on internationalization in VB at
    http://www.i18nWithVB.com/

    "Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
    news:39eb1f92.132138671@news.devx.com...
    >
    >
    > DF is dead, get over it. :-)
    >
    >
    >
    > ---
    > Z
    >
    > You're just mad because the voices don't talk to you.




  4. #4
    Bill McCarthy Guest

    Re: Why's It So Quiet Today?

    Haven't you ever heard of "a moment's silence for the dead "? Geez, the lack
    of respect for VB is really astounding.



    "Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
    news:39eb1f92.132138671@news.devx.com...
    >
    >
    > DF is dead, get over it. :-)
    >
    >
    >
    > ---
    > Z
    >
    > You're just mad because the voices don't talk to you.




  5. #5
    Jonathan Wood Guest

    Re: Why's It So Quiet Today?

    Not exactly. There's still C++, Delphi, et. al.

    --
    Jonathan Wood
    SoftCircuits Programming
    http://www.softcircuits.com

    "Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
    news:39eb1f92.132138671@news.devx.com...
    >
    >
    > DF is dead, get over it. :-)
    >
    >
    >
    > ---
    > Z
    >
    > You're just mad because the voices don't talk to you.




  6. #6
    Daniel Pratt Guest

    Re: Why's It So Quiet Today?

    I guess until I find a concrete definition for DF, I can't say that C++
    doesn't have it, so I'll put it to you like this: IMHO, I don't believe that
    most people would find C++'s brand of scope-based destruction to be an
    acceptable replacement for VB6's DF behavior. They are definitely not the
    same. In fact, depending on the scenario, the knowledge that *all* objects,
    shared and otherwise, will terminate *eventually* in a GC system may be
    preferable.
    OTOH, I would really like to see C++-style scope-based "destruction"
    make it into VB/C#. In my way of thinking, a method-local scoped object
    would have it's Dispose method called at the end of the method, and a
    member-local scoped object would have it's Dispose method called when the
    parent object's Dispose method was called. Brian's syntactic sugar might cut
    it for the method-local case, but...
    I don't know enough about Delphi to comment on it.

    Regards,
    Dan

    "Jonathan Wood" <jwood@softcircuits.com> wrote in message
    news:39de22d8@news.devx.com...
    > Not exactly. There's still C++, Delphi, et. al.
    >
    > --
    > Jonathan Wood
    > SoftCircuits Programming
    > http://www.softcircuits.com
    >
    > "Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
    > news:39eb1f92.132138671@news.devx.com...
    > >
    > >
    > > DF is dead, get over it. :-)
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > ---
    > > Z
    > >
    > > You're just mad because the voices don't talk to you.

    >
    >




  7. #7
    David Zajac Guest

    Re: Why's It So Quiet Today?

    Delphi lacks Garbage Collection; it has Deterministic Finalization.
    Non-Interfaced objects must be freed by the user. Interfaced Objects are
    automatically managed by the environment utilizing reference counting
    (almost exactly like VB).

    I used to have GC envy. After following these discussions, I'm cured.


    "Daniel Pratt" <dprREMOVETHISatt71@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:39de304b$1@news.devx.com...
    > I don't know enough about Delphi to comment on it.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Dan
    >





  8. #8
    Bob O`Bob Guest

    Re: Why's It So Quiet Today?

    Daniel Pratt wrote:

    > In fact, depending on the scenario, the knowledge that *all* objects,
    > shared and otherwise, will terminate *eventually* in a GC system may be
    > preferable.



    Might be useful.


    Too bad it's not true.




    Bob O`Bob
    --
    I see the writing on the wall, and even without my reading glasses,
    can discern that many of the four-letter-words start with "J".

  9. #9
    Robert Kozak Guest

    Re: Why's It So Quiet Today?

    Don't forget Strings. All Delphi long strings are automatically refcounted
    by the compiler and are freed when they go out of scope.

    -- Robert Kozak

    "David Zajac" <dzajac@Hiwaay.net> wrote in message
    news:39de3436$1@news.devx.com...
    > Delphi lacks Garbage Collection; it has Deterministic Finalization.
    > Non-Interfaced objects must be freed by the user. Interfaced Objects are
    > automatically managed by the environment utilizing reference counting
    > (almost exactly like VB).
    >
    > I used to have GC envy. After following these discussions, I'm cured.
    >
    >
    > "Daniel Pratt" <dprREMOVETHISatt71@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:39de304b$1@news.devx.com...
    > > I don't know enough about Delphi to comment on it.
    > >
    > > Regards,
    > > Dan
    > >

    >
    >
    >




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