Beta1 is coming "within days," Scoble says

[Robert Scoble]

<NOT OFFICIAL>

Beta1 will ship to MSDN Universal Customers "within days."

I heard the Visual Studio.NET team had a "Beta1 Party" already. That is only
one piece of evidence that I have received that tell me that the bits have
been burned and that things should start happening darn soon.

My rumor line is ringing off the hook. Folks have gotten emails. A few
insiders have gotten Beta1 bits. I'm hearing that sometime in the next few
days the bits will be up for MSDN Universal customers and According to QBS
http://www.qbss.com Visual Studio.NET Beta 1 is now available (that's
wrong -- I'm an MSDN Universal Subscriber and it's not on their download
page yet).

Clearly it is close, though. I'm not under NDA. I'm not on the beta. But, my
phone has been ringing off the hook and it's clearly time to make a
prediction (which I think will be more accurate than any of the presidential
race predictions).

Beta1 of Visual Studio.NET is coming soon -- probably on Monday. It's time
to check MSDN and this newsgroup often -- I'm sure that the minute it comes
online there'll be hundreds of posts.

DevX tells me they will track information as it happens at
http://www.devx.com/dotnet/resources/ (click on .NET Beta Page). If you see
anything show up, please send URLs/Rumors/News to dotnet@devx.com so DevX
can let everyone else know about it.

Finally, if you haven't purchased MSDN Universal the only way to get the
Visual Studio.NET beta1 will be to sign up for it (link is on the DevX .NET
Beta page above). That'll get you a CD, but there might be a slight shipping
charge.

Keep in mind that Visual Studio.NET is DIFFERENT from the .NET Framework
SDK. Both are expected to ship at the same time. Visual Studio.NET INCLUDES
the .NET Framework SDK. (The .NET Framework SDK is expected to be available
separately as well).

Expected download size for Visual Studio.NET is somewhere around 800 to 900
megabytes, so the download won't be for someone who is on a 28.8 modem.
You'll want to sign up for the CD if you don't have a broadband connection
to the Internet.

</NOT OFFICIAL>

Robert Scoble
My own opinions.

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[--==[ russ ]==--]

Anybody familiar with the beta process, specifically for those who signed up
on the nomination form... is that considered part of the "private" or
"public" beta?



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Russ

[Robert Scoble]

None of us have enough information yet.

I know that there are several different kinds of betas. There are some folks
who have had Visual Studio.NET since late last year. Will you have access to
the same stuff that those folks have? Doubt it.

Robert Scoble


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"--==[ russ ]==--" <russ_spamsux@ihateapple.com> wrote in message
news:3a0dfd9e@news.devx.com...
> Anybody familiar with the beta process, specifically for those who signed
up
> on the nomination form... is that considered part of the "private" or
> "public" beta?
>
>
>
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> Russ
>
>
>
>
>

[Phil Weber]

> Specifically for those who signed up on the nomination form...
> Is that considered part of the "private" or "public" beta?

Russ: If you are granted access to Microsoft's private beta newsgroups,
you're in the private beta, and should consider yourself under NDA.
Otherwise, you're participating in the public beta.
---
Phil Weber

[--==[ russ ]==--]

All I got was the email. It didn't really say much. I guess they will mail
the NDA?

--

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Russ



"Phil Weber" <pweber@devx.com> wrote in message
news:3a0dff89@news.devx.com...
> > Specifically for those who signed up on the nomination form...
> > Is that considered part of the "private" or "public" beta?
>
> Russ: If you are granted access to Microsoft's private beta newsgroups,
> you're in the private beta, and should consider yourself under NDA.
> Otherwise, you're participating in the public beta.
> ---
> Phil Weber
>
>

[Robert Scoble]

> All I got was the email. It didn't really say much. I guess they will mail
> the NDA?

It might also be a "break the seal" NDA. In other words, install the disk
and you agree to the NDA.

Robert Scoble

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[Richard Curzon]

"Robert Scoble" <rscoble@fawcette.com> wrote in message
news:3a0ddc60$1@news.devx.com...
> <NOT OFFICIAL>

> Clearly it is close, though. I'm not under NDA.

So now MS will see if they like you outside the tent pissing in, better than
inside the tent pissing out, right? <g>

At least they don't have a leg to stand on to take away your email account
now... <g>

Keep it up...
Richard.

[Carl Nettelblad]

"Robert Scoble" <rscoble@fawcette.com> wrote in message
news:3a0f32a6$1@news.devx.com...
> > All I got was the email. It didn't really say much. I guess they will
mail
> > the NDA?
>
> It might also be a "break the seal" NDA. In other words, install the disk
> and you agree to the NDA.
>
> Robert Scoble

The thing is that russ and I (and well, just a few more, I guess) have only
received that short "you're accepted" mail last week. I'll be installing the
MSDN version this night, and wait and see if I get something in the IRL
mail.

/Carl

[Carl Nettelblad]

"Michael (michka) Kaplan" <former_mvp@spamfree.trigeminal.nospam.com> wrote
in message news:3a0fd704$1@news.devx.com...
> "Richard Curzon" <ssi@interNOSPAMlog.com> wrote in message
> news:3a0f7067@news.devx.com...
>
> > So now MS will see if they like you outside the tent pissing in, better
> than
> > inside the tent pissing out, right? <g>
> >
> > At least they don't have a leg to stand on to take away your email
account
> > now... <g>
>
> Of course, it was Fawcette that change Robert's assignment, not Microsoft.
> AFAIK Robert has never had a Microsoft e-mail account to have taken away.
>
> > Keep it up...
>
> Robert will be doing this sort of stuff till the day he dies.... :-) And
> its likely it will not be till several weeks after he is dead (I can just
> imagine the unofficial previews of the afterlife we will all be receiving
on
> a DevX/FTP website!)

Remember life is just a time limited beta, and every project you create here
will have to be recreated the next time.

/Carl

(It would really help if we got the release notes from the beginning,
instead of finding it out ourselves)

[Robert Scoble]

> Of course, it was Fawcette that change Robert's assignment, not Microsoft.
> AFAIK Robert has never had a Microsoft e-mail account to have taken away.

Hey, didn't you know that Tony Goodhew asks me if it's time to release yet?
:-)

True, but my management wouldn't care if Microsoft didn't care.

> > Keep it up...
> Robert will be doing this sort of stuff till the day he dies.... :-) And
> its likely it will not be till several weeks after he is dead (I can just
> imagine the unofficial previews of the afterlife we will all be receiving
on
> a DevX/FTP website!)

I may not have a soul, but my postings will live forever!

Robert Scoble

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