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  1. #1
    John Butler Guest

    is it me..or have things gone real quiet?

    I've been away from the group for a few weeks (engaged in a heavy ASP.NET
    project for a client) and returning...everything seems...well a little
    quiet.

    Is everyone shouted out or tired or what?

    I guess every forum gets "discussion fatigue" every now and then...but c'mon
    guys & gals wake up!!!

    Either the above...or everyone is happily coding away in vb.net (or C#
    <gulp> ) and has nothing to say any more....say it isn't so!

    rgds
    John Butler






  2. #2
    Tom Bennet Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?


    While you were out MS declared they had stolen the .Net idea from Sun and
    they had for years been making it impossible for anyone to compete on the
    intel platform. The good news is that they have agreed to give everyone
    their money back.

    We're all now porting our apps to java.

    You better get started too or you'll fall behind

    Bet you wish you had kept your mouth shut

    "John Butler" <nospamjrbutler@btinternet.com> wrote:
    >Is everyone shouted out or tired or what?
    >
    >I guess every forum gets "discussion fatigue" every now and then...but c'mon
    >guys & gals wake up!!!
    >
    >Either the above...or everyone is happily coding away in vb.net (or C#


    ><gulp> ) and has nothing to say any more....say it isn't so!
    >
    >rgds
    >John Butler
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >



  3. #3
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?

    On Fri, 10 May 2002 23:29:30 +0100, "John Butler"
    <nospamjrbutler@btinternet.com> wrote:

    >engaged in a heavy ASP.NET project for a client


    Talk to me about asp.net controls:

    Did you use any?

    Yes: What did you like and dislike about them?
    No: Why not?

    Did you or someone on the project write any controls?

    Are the controls you would have liked to have but couldn't find?

    Any other comments about asp.net server controls?


    btw, welcome back, it has been much less rowdy lately :-)



    --
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    zane@mvps.org

  4. #4
    Rob Teixeira Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?


    "John Butler" <nospamjrbutler@btinternet.com> wrote:
    >I've been away from the group for a few weeks (engaged in a heavy ASP.NET
    >project for a client) and returning...everything seems...well a little
    >quiet.
    >
    >Is everyone shouted out or tired or what?


    How many times can you rehash the same half-dozen topics?

    >I guess every forum gets "discussion fatigue" every now and then...but c'mon
    >guys & gals wake up!!!
    >
    >Either the above...or everyone is happily coding away in vb.net (or C#
    ><gulp> ) and has nothing to say any more....say it isn't so!


    Until we get some new topics, yeah, that about sums it up.

    -Rob



  5. #5
    Rob Teixeira Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?



    Hey Zane,
    welcome back to you too.
    Nice topic, BTW.

    zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:
    >On Fri, 10 May 2002 23:29:30 +0100, "John Butler"
    ><nospamjrbutler@btinternet.com> wrote:
    >
    >>engaged in a heavy ASP.NET project for a client

    >
    >Talk to me about asp.net controls:
    >
    >Did you use any?


    Using quite a few right now.

    > Yes: What did you like and dislike about them?
    > No: Why not?
    >
    >Did you or someone on the project write any controls?


    Yes and yes
    We have a custom-looking toolbar/menu piece that gets presented on many of
    the pages. That's the biggest one. Others mostly take some common-look-and-feel
    pieces and centralizes them. The caching aspect is really nice too.

    >Are the controls you would have liked to have but couldn't find?


    A **** tab control
    Well, not in the original framework anyway.

    >Any other comments about asp.net server controls?


    I wish they had made it as easy to localize server controls as they did with
    windows forms. Unfortunately, you have to hook this up from the resources
    yourself. Not that it's very difficult to do, but it would have been nice
    if this were added already.

    -Rob

  6. #6
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?

    On 13 May 2002 06:41:28 -0800, "Rob Teixeira" <RobTeixeira@@msn.com>
    wrote:

    >We have a custom-looking toolbar/menu piece that gets presented on many of
    >the pages.


    Is that on a publicly accessible website?


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    Turn on, tune in, download.
    zane@mvps.org

  7. #7
    Kevin Moore Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?


    Hi,

    Not to jump in the middle of a discussion here, but we are just finishing
    up an asp.net application and we also utilize user controls extensively.
    Some for standard menu type functionality, others for commonly re-used code/ui
    blocks. I must add that the user control, from the asp.net POV, is one of,
    if not the best improvement MS did with asp.net.

    Just my .02

    Kevin

    zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:
    >On 13 May 2002 06:41:28 -0800, "Rob Teixeira" <RobTeixeira@@msn.com>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>We have a custom-looking toolbar/menu piece that gets presented on many

    of
    >>the pages.

    >
    >Is that on a publicly accessible website?
    >
    >
    >--
    >Turn on, tune in, download.
    >zane@mvps.org



  8. #8
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?

    On 13 May 2002 09:30:00 -0800, "Kevin Moore" <Kevin@MooreSSI.com> wrote:

    >Not to jump in the middle of a discussion here ...


    Why not? :-)

    >... but we are just finishing
    >up an asp.net application and we also utilize user controls extensively.
    >Some for standard menu type functionality, others for commonly re-used code/ui
    >blocks.


    Did you build or buy? I'm interested in knowing what sorts of asp.net
    components people are needing.

    >I must add that the user control, from the asp.net POV, is one of,
    >if not the best improvement MS did with asp.net.


    There are a lot of things to like about asp.net, user controls are
    certainly right up there somewhere in the top of the list.


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    Turn on, tune in, download.
    zane@mvps.org

  9. #9
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?

    On 13 May 2002 10:05:23 -0800, "Rob Teixeira" <RobTeixeira@@msn.com>
    wrote:

    >However, there's nothing proprietary about that toolbar/menu code, so I might
    >post an example based on it somewhere when I get some time to sort it out.


    Cool - in the meantime you can email me a copy. :-)


    --
    Turn on, tune in, download.
    zane@mvps.org

  10. #10
    Rob Teixeira Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?



    Not yet

    Actually, the company is in the middle of deciding how to handle the channel
    in terms of end user-reseller-distributor models (who gets to do what with
    whom). So there's still a chance the site will be B2B only.

    However, there's nothing proprietary about that toolbar/menu code, so I might
    post an example based on it somewhere when I get some time to sort it out.

    -Rob

    zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:
    >On 13 May 2002 06:41:28 -0800, "Rob Teixeira" <RobTeixeira@@msn.com>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>We have a custom-looking toolbar/menu piece that gets presented on many

    of
    >>the pages.

    >
    >Is that on a publicly accessible website?
    >
    >
    >--
    >Turn on, tune in, download.
    >zane@mvps.org



  11. #11
    Robert Lantry Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?

    Honestly, VB.NET is here and there's nothing left to argue about. People
    who want to stick their heads in the sand, call MS names and generally
    disparage the tool, are the same wonks pushing the same "visionary" opinions
    since the beginning of open beta.

    Also, the fact that just about every .Not in here makes up crap (read: lies
    outright), whines about MS and then proceeds for 40 or 50 posts to continue
    to support their delusions (changing history, definitions and anything else
    to help drive .NET's insane) - is a silly, indulgent waste of time.

    I've recently started interviewing for new jobs. Every one of them has had
    a .NET requirement. Most of them are entirely new implementations. A
    couple of them are ports. .NET is here to stay. I'm productive in it. I'm
    happy. Apparently my potential employers are happy.

    The .Not's are going to stay .Not's until circumstance or chance or
    lightning strikes and they finally realize that the world didn't flip
    ***-over-teacups. Same work, different day. Same problems, new tools.
    Same deadlines, better design patterns.

    And if they never figure it out? What do I care? Less competition for me.
    Yay. Let 'em go be truck drivers or something. I have no sympathy (or even
    understanding) for people who think it productive to bet against Microsoft
    and purposefully shoot themselves in the foot when the effort to learn is
    neither great nor the concepts alien, and the payoff at least makes them as
    competitive as the next guy.

    --

    -Robert

    Have a cow, man:
    http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow.html


    "John Butler" <nospamjrbutler@btinternet.com> wrote in message
    news:3cdc4599@10.1.10.29...
    > I've been away from the group for a few weeks (engaged in a heavy ASP.NET
    > project for a client) and returning...everything seems...well a little
    > quiet.
    >
    > Is everyone shouted out or tired or what?
    >
    > I guess every forum gets "discussion fatigue" every now and then...but

    c'mon
    > guys & gals wake up!!!
    >
    > Either the above...or everyone is happily coding away in vb.net (or C#
    > <gulp> ) and has nothing to say any more....say it isn't so!
    >
    > rgds
    > John Butler
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >




  12. #12
    Tim Hitchings \(Infragistics\) Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?

    Try the tab control here:
    http://www.infragistics.com/products...rawebsuite.asp
    e-mail me if you find it lacking.

    "Rob Teixeira" <RobTeixeira@@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:3cdfc288$1@10.1.10.29...
    > >Are the controls you would have liked to have but couldn't find?

    >
    > A **** tab control





  13. #13
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?

    Tim,

    Hi! :-)


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  14. #14
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?

    On Mon, 13 May 2002 12:28:02 -0700, "Robert Lantry" <mirth@mirthy.com>
    wrote:

    >And if they never figure it out? What do I care? Less competition for me.
    >Yay. Let 'em go be truck drivers or something. I have no sympathy (or even
    >understanding) for people who think it productive to bet against Microsoft
    >and purposefully shoot themselves in the foot when the effort to learn is
    >neither great nor the concepts alien, and the payoff at least makes them as
    >competitive as the next guy.


    Well, if you *don't* understand, then you don't comprehend other
    people's sensibilities. By all means, gorge on .Net. Knock yourself
    out! I have other alternatives and I expect very many will as well.

    MM

  15. #15
    Robert Lantry Guest

    Re: is it me..or have things gone real quiet?

    Then why are you here?

    --

    -Robert

    Have a cow, man:
    http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow.html


    "Mike Mitchell" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:3ce01f0e.49921884@news.devx.com...
    > On Mon, 13 May 2002 12:28:02 -0700, "Robert Lantry" <mirth@mirthy.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >And if they never figure it out? What do I care? Less competition for

    me.
    > >Yay. Let 'em go be truck drivers or something. I have no sympathy (or

    even
    > >understanding) for people who think it productive to bet against

    Microsoft
    > >and purposefully shoot themselves in the foot when the effort to learn is
    > >neither great nor the concepts alien, and the payoff at least makes them

    as
    > >competitive as the next guy.

    >
    > Well, if you *don't* understand, then you don't comprehend other
    > people's sensibilities. By all means, gorge on .Net. Knock yourself
    > out! I have other alternatives and I expect very many will as well.
    >
    > MM




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