any Java equivalent to .NET server controls?

[Jerry Jackson]

I'm new to Java and trying to find out if there's anything in the Java realm
equivalent to the server controls for web application development in Microsoft's
.net universe.

This MS technology is described at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...alprog0101.asp

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I'm fed up with the security and stability problems on the Microsoft side
of the fence and am considering moving my company in a radically different
technology direction.

[MarkN]

Check out IBM's Webservices tools. If I find a link, I'll post it.

Mark

"Jerry Jackson" <jerry@jcj.net> wrote:
>
>I'm new to Java and trying to find out if there's anything in the Java realm
>equivalent to the server controls for web application development in Microsoft's
>.net universe.
>
>This MS technology is described at:
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...alprog0101.asp
>
>Can anyone point me in the right direction?
>
>I'm fed up with the security and stability problems on the Microsoft side
>of the fence and am considering moving my company in a radically different
>technology direction.

[MarkN]

Here are some links.

http://www7b.boulder.ibm.com/wsdd/li...wanderski.html

http://www7b.boulder.ibm.com/wsdd/

Mark

"MarkN" <mnuttall@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>Check out IBM's Webservices tools. If I find a link, I'll post it.
>
>Mark
>
>"Jerry Jackson" <jerry@jcj.net> wrote:
>>
>>I'm new to Java and trying to find out if there's anything in the Java
realm
>>equivalent to the server controls for web application development in Microsoft's
>>.net universe.
>>
>>This MS technology is described at:
>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...alprog0101.asp
>>
>>Can anyone point me in the right direction?
>>
>>I'm fed up with the security and stability problems on the Microsoft side
>>of the fence and am considering moving my company in a radically different
>>technology direction.
>

[Jerry Jackson]

Mark, thanks for the links! I'll look into them today. Anyone else know of
anything else?

"MarkN" <mnuttall@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>Here are some links.
>
>http://www7b.boulder.ibm.com/wsdd/li...wanderski.html
>
>http://www7b.boulder.ibm.com/wsdd/
>
>Mark
>

[Aaron Sevivas]

Hi Jerry,

First of all, I navigated to the link you stated and took a look at the M$
sample fahrenheit-celsius converter server-side control. In java we would
use a servlet, but understand that that example, in my opinion, was designed
incorrectly.

The server-side control spits out HTML, which solves one problem and causes
another. It solves the problem of having the web-designer actually seeing
vb/jscript code BUT by embedding HTML in the component, you are combining
implementation with presentation, a huge no-no. In the java world, we religiously
use the Model-View-Controller pattern on the front-end to separate code logically.


But lets say we implemented this using ms technologies. Would we actually
use this method to perform a task such as this (even if it was complex?)..
Why would you generate HTML within a component? I would just return the
desired information(in a run'o the mill COM server side component) and allow
the web-designer to place it in the page.

Hope that helped!

~aaron
"Jerry Jackson" <jerry@jcj.net> wrote:
>
>Mark, thanks for the links! I'll look into them today. Anyone else know
of
>anything else?
>
>"MarkN" <mnuttall@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>Here are some links.
>>
>>http://www7b.boulder.ibm.com/wsdd/li...wanderski.html
>>
>>http://www7b.boulder.ibm.com/wsdd/
>>
>>Mark
>>