The question asked a million times

[Andrew]

While were on the subject of switching to Java… I am a VB, Oracle developer
looking to add a new language to my skill set. I have been bouncing back
and forth on whether to learn Java or C++. I have taken courses in both
and find Java more rewarding. My only concern is will it sustain its growth
pattern. I’ve found a few studies that say it’s here to stay and others,
at DevX, that say it will be relegated to minor middleware projects. I
guess I’m looking for assurance so I don’t spend the next 6 months learning
something that will be of little value like is college we they made you learn
Assembly, COBOL etc…

Thanks

[Javier Estrada]

"Andrew" <mclellan_a@nospanYahoo.com> wrote:
>
>While were on the subject of switching to Java… I am a VB, Oracle developer
>looking to add a new language to my skill set. I have been bouncing back
>and forth on whether to learn Java or C++. I have taken courses in both
>and find Java more rewarding. My only concern is will it sustain its growth
>pattern. I’ve found a few studies that say it’s here to stay and others,
>at DevX, that say it will be relegated to minor middleware projects. I
>guess I’m looking for assurance so I don’t spend the next 6 months learning
>something that will be of little value like is college we they made you
learn
>Assembly, COBOL etc…
>
>Thanks

I guess that it depends on what you do. In our environment we don't use
Java, and even though I have spent time learning it, I don't think I'll ever
use it there. I guess that it's also difficult to use Java if you work in
a Windows-only environment, particularly because most of the tools out there
for Windows are mature and do the job really well. If you have a user and
password for the devx zone you'll be able to read an interesting interview
with Bjarne Stroustrup, the creator of C++. He's got very solid points in
his answers, and according to him, C++ base is growing up.

So, in essence, my advice is to project your future for the next year and
pick the language that will give you the most bang for your minutes.

Hope it helps. :~)

[Vikram Rajan]

Java is here to stay and grow. This not only because of its characteristics
- portable, object-oriented.. blah blah blah, but also due to the manner
in which it is growing. For example, the Java2 Enterprise Edition (J2EE)
defines a set of specifications which are being implemented by vendors like
IBM, Sybase, Weblogic etc. So as long as Java develops is a community process,
it is unstoppable. This is exactly where it scores over Microsoft technologies
which are tied down to one platform.

Let me give you an example which should settle your uncertainity once and
for all:
Let us suppose that you develop a server side application for the internet
which uses Oracle RDMBS, IBM WebSphere Application Server, Domino GoServer
as the webserver - all running on Sun Solaris OS.
Due to a change in requirements (or just for the heck of it), all the products
are changed. The RDBMS is now Sybase Release 10, Weblogic Application server
and a Windows NT OS.

If the application that you have developed is in J2EE, you do not have to
change a single line of code. Just start using your application.
Is that possible with VC or VB? You tell me.

Bye,
V

[Andrew]

Thanks Vikram

"Vikram Rajan" <vikramr@planetasia.com> wrote:
>
>Java is here to stay and grow. This not only because of its characteristics
>- portable, object-oriented.. blah blah blah, but also due to the manner
>in which it is growing. For example, the Java2 Enterprise Edition (J2EE)
>defines a set of specifications which are being implemented by vendors like
>IBM, Sybase, Weblogic etc. So as long as Java develops is a community process,
>it is unstoppable. This is exactly where it scores over Microsoft technologies
>which are tied down to one platform.
>
>Let me give you an example which should settle your uncertainity once and
>for all:
>Let us suppose that you develop a server side application for the internet
>which uses Oracle RDMBS, IBM WebSphere Application Server, Domino GoServer
>as the webserver - all running on Sun Solaris OS.
>Due to a change in requirements (or just for the heck of it), all the products
>are changed. The RDBMS is now Sybase Release 10, Weblogic Application server
>and a Windows NT OS.
>
>If the application that you have developed is in J2EE, you do not have to
>change a single line of code. Just start using your application.
>Is that possible with VC or VB? You tell me.
>
>Bye,
>V

[David]

You need to optimize for a certain setup and/or configuration.
You can't say java is quicker than native C code. You build VC/VB COM apps
(web pages) that run native in NT/2000 for optimized speed, memory utilization,
and database access. Which is faster: scripting or compiled? We all know
the answer to that.


"Vikram Rajan" <vikramr@planetasia.com> wrote:
>
>Java is here to stay and grow. This not only because of its characteristics
>- portable, object-oriented.. blah blah blah, but also due to the manner
>in which it is growing. For example, the Java2 Enterprise Edition (J2EE)
>defines a set of specifications which are being implemented by vendors like
>IBM, Sybase, Weblogic etc. So as long as Java develops is a community process,
>it is unstoppable. This is exactly where it scores over Microsoft technologies
>which are tied down to one platform.
>
>Let me give you an example which should settle your uncertainity once and
>for all:
>Let us suppose that you develop a server side application for the internet
>which uses Oracle RDMBS, IBM WebSphere Application Server, Domino GoServer
>as the webserver - all running on Sun Solaris OS.
>Due to a change in requirements (or just for the heck of it), all the products
>are changed. The RDBMS is now Sybase Release 10, Weblogic Application server
>and a Windows NT OS.
>
>If the application that you have developed is in J2EE, you do not have to
>change a single line of code. Just start using your application.
>Is that possible with VC or VB? You tell me.
>
>Bye,
>V