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  1. #1
    Mark Overstreet Guest

    Good Java Getting Started Book


    Hi,

    Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train all
    existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
    for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good books
    for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?

    Thanks
    Mark




  2. #2
    Javier Soques Guest

    Re: Good Java Getting Started Book


    "Mark Overstreet" <mark.overstreet@mail.state.ky.us> wrote:
    >
    >Hi,
    >
    >Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train all
    >existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
    >for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good

    books
    >for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?
    >
    >Thanks
    >Mark
    >
    >
    >


    I was in a similar situation just a few months ago. I am a VB programmer,
    although lately I have just been doing VBS,ASP,HTA stuff. Because of our
    clients requirements we had to learn Java (their server platform is HP/UX).
    So I started searching for a "good getting started" book. I didnīt really
    find one. I was lucky to have full internet access and the JDK API Docs
    on line. I have already done some Java Servlets and JSP programming in just
    2 months since I started with JAVA.

    Sunīs Java web site (http://developer.java.sun.com) is the best resource
    to learn Java. Just print out some of their tutorials and follow them.
    Then try som simple programs. One thing I miss from the VB is the visual
    form designer. There isnīt anything like it in the Java world. Luckily
    all of our development is server side using DHTML for the client side because
    designing a form in Java is a pain.

    HTH
    Bye
    Javier

  3. #3
    John Butorac Guest

    Re: Good Java Getting Started Book

    My two cents worth.....
    I don't know of a book that caters developers coming from a VB
    background...but the books that helped me are O'Reilly's Java in a Nutshell,
    and Java Examples in a Nutshell. There are many sites out there that are
    just as valuable, though. If you don't have much of an OO understanding
    then http://www.mindview.net/TIJ2/index.html contains the book, Thinking in
    Java by Bruce Eckel, which is free for download.





    "Mark Overstreet" <mark.overstreet@mail.state.ky.us> wrote in message
    news:3a5dcd34$1@news.devx.com...
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train all
    > existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
    > for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good

    books
    > for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?
    >
    > Thanks
    > Mark
    >
    >
    >




  4. #4
    a a Guest

    Re: Good Java Getting Started Book


    Javier--

    if u miss the GUI ....in VB try JBuilder......i've had it installed for over
    2 years and really do like it a lot. take care,

    "Javier Soques" <jsoques@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >"Mark Overstreet" <mark.overstreet@mail.state.ky.us> wrote:
    >>
    >>Hi,
    >>
    >>Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train

    all
    >>existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
    >>for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good

    >books
    >>for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?
    >>
    >>Thanks
    >>Mark
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >I was in a similar situation just a few months ago. I am a VB programmer,
    >although lately I have just been doing VBS,ASP,HTA stuff. Because of our
    >clients requirements we had to learn Java (their server platform is HP/UX).
    > So I started searching for a "good getting started" book. I didnīt really
    >find one. I was lucky to have full internet access and the JDK API Docs
    >on line. I have already done some Java Servlets and JSP programming in

    just
    >2 months since I started with JAVA.
    >
    >Sunīs Java web site (http://developer.java.sun.com) is the best resource
    >to learn Java. Just print out some of their tutorials and follow them.


    >Then try som simple programs. One thing I miss from the VB is the visual
    >form designer. There isnīt anything like it in the Java world. Luckily
    >all of our development is server side using DHTML for the client side because
    >designing a form in Java is a pain.
    >
    >HTH
    >Bye
    >Javier



  5. #5
    Mike Guest

    Re: Good Java Getting Started Book


    "Mark Overstreet" <mark.overstreet@mail.state.ky.us> wrote:
    >
    >Hi,
    >
    >Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train all
    >existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
    >for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good

    books
    >for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?
    >
    >Thanks
    >Mark
    >
    >
    >

    Mark -- Too bad -- VB is more suitable for certain things, and the learning
    curve for java has been, for me, triple, what it was for VB.

    Still, Java is exciting, and in the long run, very useful.

    I have gravitated to Sun's "Core" series. The first two books I would recommend,
    would be "Just Java" and "Core Java2 Volume 1". But there is plenty of good
    stuff out there. If you're an online book buyer, fatbrain.com routinely
    charges 10 - 20% less than Amazon, and is a quality operation.

    Others' recommendation to use Sun's developer site, is right on. Much good
    free stuff there.

    We were trained almost from "zero" starting a year ago, and we're just wrapping
    up our first major project, using Visual Age for Java and Websphere. Training
    recommendation:
    -- If you can swing it, start with a one-week course in object-oriented analysis
    & design. Or at least, try to work that in before you get too far down the
    road.
    -- a one week course on Java's basics, just using the Java JDK. If you start
    trying to use VAJ at the beginning, you may spend time being confused between
    the language and the tool.
    -- a one week VAJ course. IBM offers 3 - 4 similar-but-different courses.
    If you get to go, be sure to pick the one that emphasizes what you will
    be doing (applets? servlets? applications?). Be careful to recognize there
    are similarly named elementary courses which focus on learning OO, using
    some Java -- compared to others, focusing more strongly on the language as
    done within VAJ.
    -- the one week Websphere Server / Websphere Studio course. You can get
    along without this, especially if you are working with a Websphere-experienced
    developer.

    And yes, designing your first visual front-end with Java, even VAJ, should
    not be done near the window of a tall building. VAJ helps Java GUI-building
    feel a LITTLE like VB, but not much.

    Have fun!
    Mike

  6. #6
    cyberbro Guest

    Re: Good Java Getting Started Book


    Hi

    The site that i found That i thought was good is Java 1.1 Interactive Course.
    Which is found at http://www.itknowledge.com/reference...832/ewtoc.html



  7. #7
    Ed Singleton Guest

    Re: Good Java Getting Started Book


    "Mark Overstreet" <mark.overstreet@mail.state.ky.us> wrote:
    >
    >Hi,
    >
    >Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train all
    >existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
    >for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good

    books
    >for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?
    >
    >Thanks
    >Mark
    >
    >
    >



  8. #8
    u Guest

    Re: Good Java Getting Started Book


    Well,
    There is no way or resources to teach VB to Java. For VB programmers
    its a whole new world as far as application concerns,but web development
    would be easy for you if you know ASP. Since, you are using VAJ and webSphere
    go IBM site thats the best resource for their product. for java, use web
    thats the best resource for learning java. YOU MUST KNOW OO FUNDAMENTALS
    AND THATS THE HARD PART OF LEARNING JAVA I STRONGLY SUGGEST GET SOME C++
    OR OO DESIGN CLASSES AND READ A LOT ABOUT IT.


  9. #9
    David Guest

    Re: Good Java Getting Started Book


    "John Butorac" <jbutorac@nlamerica.com> wrote:
    >My two cents worth.....
    >I don't know of a book that caters developers coming from a VB
    >background...but the books that helped me are O'Reilly's Java in a Nutshell,
    >and Java Examples in a Nutshell. There are many sites out there that are
    >just as valuable, though. If you don't have much of an OO understanding
    >then http://www.mindview.net/TIJ2/index.html contains the book, Thinking

    in
    >Java by Bruce Eckel, which is free for download.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >"Mark Overstreet" <mark.overstreet@mail.state.ky.us> wrote in message
    >news:3a5dcd34$1@news.devx.com...
    >>
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> Our company just dumped our VB development and has decided to re-train

    all
    >> existing programmers in Java. Our first project will be using VisualAge
    >> for Java and Websphere running under AIX. Does anyone know of any good

    >books
    >> for learning Java coming from Microsoft/VB background?
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >> Mark
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >

    Try IBM's developer works site - great examples, how-to' and free online
    courses...

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