OS/WINDOWS

[Eric Schneider]

Hello,

I have tried linux, years ago.. when there was little software for it and
few drivers. How is this area now?

I will keep a open mind to any OS, I have used allot of them over the years.

Has anyone ever used a Amiga500> the V2.0 OS ROM was wrote by MS and the UI
is similar to Win95, but provided true multitasking.


Schneider

[Mike Reilly]

It's getting better. There is a lot more software, but a lot of it is still
lacking features or requires some *very* serious study to get anything out
of (Emacs for example!). There is a lot more good software (Star Office
isn't bad - I can even get students to use it with little training).

I haven't found a really good full feature news reader, though I've found a
few that are certainly getting close. Then again, I don't have a lot of
time for hacking around. Linux setup, configuration and management has come
a long ways. Web servers and server side scripting (ala php) is excellent.

My main attraction to Linux is price and stability. The only time I ever
have any lock up is when Netscape is running. In Windows, I get all sorts
of time wasting crashes/lockups, etc. Then again, I haven't moved to 2000
yet.

Eric Schneider wrote in message <38d19337$1@news.devx.com>...
>Hello,
>
>I have tried linux, years ago.. when there was little software for it and
>few drivers. How is this area now?
>
>I will keep a open mind to any OS, I have used allot of them over the
years.
>
>Has anyone ever used a Amiga500> the V2.0 OS ROM was wrote by MS and the UI
>is similar to Win95, but provided true multitasking.
>
>
>Schneider
>
>

[Eric Schneider]

How about programming? support sites? Docs?
Just in C/++ or is there others?

Is the below software free/commercial?

Also my main concern: Is there some governing body to set compatibility
standards and Interfacing of the OS?

What is the current method for install? Allow dual OS?
Image disks still?

Schneider


Mike Reilly wrote in message <38d26b1a$1@news.devx.com>...
>It's getting better. There is a lot more software, but a lot of it is
still
>lacking features or requires some *very* serious study to get anything out
>of (Emacs for example!). There is a lot more good software (Star Office
>isn't bad - I can even get students to use it with little training).
>
>I haven't found a really good full feature news reader, though I've found a
>few that are certainly getting close. Then again, I don't have a lot of
>time for hacking around. Linux setup, configuration and management has
come
>a long ways. Web servers and server side scripting (ala php) is excellent.
>
>My main attraction to Linux is price and stability. The only time I ever
>have any lock up is when Netscape is running. In Windows, I get all sorts
>of time wasting crashes/lockups, etc. Then again, I haven't moved to 2000
>yet.
>
>Eric Schneider wrote in message <38d19337$1@news.devx.com>...
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have tried linux, years ago.. when there was little software for it and
>>few drivers. How is this area now?
>>
>>I will keep a open mind to any OS, I have used allot of them over the
>years.
>>
>>Has anyone ever used a Amiga500> the V2.0 OS ROM was wrote by MS and the
UI
>>is similar to Win95, but provided true multitasking.
>>
>>
>>Schneider
>>
>>
>
>

[Mike Reilly]

I have only used G++ (the Gnu C++ compiler) so far. You can use perl, awk,
and many others (asm, fortran, pascal, etc...). More and more tools are
coming out all the time.

The programming NG's are there, though occasionally it's hard to find an
answer (at least in gnu). The php listserve, however, is insane. I don't
subscribe because the traffic is too intense. The archives, however,
probably have answers to every question you'd want to know about.
Documentation is there, but, like many things Linux, you have to spend a
fair bit of time figuring out just *where* the **** they are. There are a
lot of good web sites out there (do a quick search, lots there).

Star Office is free for personal use. It has very cheap site licensing, and
I think they will negotiate fairly attractive terms (I think you can get a
whole school license for a couple hundred bucks).

I don't know the details of the 'governing body', but yes, there is a group
out there somewhere creating consensus for kernel development.

You can run multi OS's. Most (if not all) Linuxes come with LILO, a boot
manager/loader. You can use that, or, with a little work, ntldr (the NT
boot loader) to do multi-boot systems. The machine I'm on right now has 95,
NT 4 Server and Linux Mandrake 6. Mandrake is a very good beginners Linux.

>How about programming? support sites? Docs?
>Just in C/++ or is there others?
>
>Is the below software free/commercial?
>
>Also my main concern: Is there some governing body to set compatibility
>standards and Interfacing of the OS?
>
>What is the current method for install? Allow dual OS?
>Image disks still?
>
>Schneider
>
>
>Mike Reilly wrote in message <38d26b1a$1@news.devx.com>...
>>It's getting better. There is a lot more software, but a lot of it is
>still
>>lacking features or requires some *very* serious study to get anything out
>>of (Emacs for example!). There is a lot more good software (Star Office
>>isn't bad - I can even get students to use it with little training).
>>
>>I haven't found a really good full feature news reader, though I've found
a
>>few that are certainly getting close. Then again, I don't have a lot of
>>time for hacking around. Linux setup, configuration and management has
>come
>>a long ways. Web servers and server side scripting (ala php) is
excellent.
>>
>>My main attraction to Linux is price and stability. The only time I ever
>>have any lock up is when Netscape is running. In Windows, I get all sorts
>>of time wasting crashes/lockups, etc. Then again, I haven't moved to 2000
>>yet.
>>
>>Eric Schneider wrote in message <38d19337$1@news.devx.com>...
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>I have tried linux, years ago.. when there was little software for it and
>>>few drivers. How is this area now?
>>>
>>>I will keep a open mind to any OS, I have used allot of them over the
>>years.
>>>
>>>Has anyone ever used a Amiga500> the V2.0 OS ROM was wrote by MS and the
>UI
>>>is similar to Win95, but provided true multitasking.
>>>
>>>
>>>Schneider
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Eric Schneider]

Hi, Mike

Thanks for the info. I will look further into it.

I think they still have allot of catch-up to do, Wouldn't you agree?
MS has the advantage of a major main stream users/companies/corp...

Schneider
schsoft@mwt.net


Mike Reilly wrote in message <38d483ca@news.devx.com>...
>I have only used G++ (the Gnu C++ compiler) so far. You can use perl, awk,
>and many others (asm, fortran, pascal, etc...). More and more tools are
>coming out all the time.
>
>The programming NG's are there, though occasionally it's hard to find an
>answer (at least in gnu). The php listserve, however, is insane. I don't
>subscribe because the traffic is too intense. The archives, however,
>probably have answers to every question you'd want to know about.
>Documentation is there, but, like many things Linux, you have to spend a
>fair bit of time figuring out just *where* the **** they are. There are a
>lot of good web sites out there (do a quick search, lots there).
>
>Star Office is free for personal use. It has very cheap site licensing,
and
>I think they will negotiate fairly attractive terms (I think you can get a
>whole school license for a couple hundred bucks).
>
>I don't know the details of the 'governing body', but yes, there is a group
>out there somewhere creating consensus for kernel development.
>
>You can run multi OS's. Most (if not all) Linuxes come with LILO, a boot
>manager/loader. You can use that, or, with a little work, ntldr (the NT
>boot loader) to do multi-boot systems. The machine I'm on right now has
95,
>NT 4 Server and Linux Mandrake 6. Mandrake is a very good beginners Linux.
>
>>How about programming? support sites? Docs?
>>Just in C/++ or is there others?
>>
>>Is the below software free/commercial?
>>
>>Also my main concern: Is there some governing body to set compatibility
>>standards and Interfacing of the OS?
>>
>>What is the current method for install? Allow dual OS?
>>Image disks still?
>>
>>Schneider
>>
>>
>>Mike Reilly wrote in message <38d26b1a$1@news.devx.com>...
>>>It's getting better. There is a lot more software, but a lot of it is
>>still
>>>lacking features or requires some *very* serious study to get anything
out
>>>of (Emacs for example!). There is a lot more good software (Star Office
>>>isn't bad - I can even get students to use it with little training).
>>>
>>>I haven't found a really good full feature news reader, though I've found
>a
>>>few that are certainly getting close. Then again, I don't have a lot of
>>>time for hacking around. Linux setup, configuration and management has
>>come
>>>a long ways. Web servers and server side scripting (ala php) is
>excellent.
>>>
>>>My main attraction to Linux is price and stability. The only time I ever
>>>have any lock up is when Netscape is running. In Windows, I get all
sorts
>>>of time wasting crashes/lockups, etc. Then again, I haven't moved to
2000
>>>yet.
>>>
>>>Eric Schneider wrote in message <38d19337$1@news.devx.com>...
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>I have tried linux, years ago.. when there was little software for it
and
>>>>few drivers. How is this area now?
>>>>
>>>>I will keep a open mind to any OS, I have used allot of them over the
>>>years.
>>>>
>>>>Has anyone ever used a Amiga500> the V2.0 OS ROM was wrote by MS and the
>>UI
>>>>is similar to Win95, but provided true multitasking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Schneider
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Mike Reilly]

MS does have a fairly large advantage in most areas (except price). If you
have good linux techs, you can come up with some good solutions in a lot of
areas. Linux/Apache makes an excellent web server solution for most uses.
Linux can be an excellent firewall solution, etc..


>I think they still have allot of catch-up to do, Wouldn't you agree?
>MS has the advantage of a major main stream users/companies/corp...

[vijay]

I am an undergraduate student in information systems.
yeah i agree with both of you...but its good to see students
are more open towards linux thesedays they want to explore the alternatives
available to windows so i view it as a good direction and of course lot of
work needs to be done on the User interface front, and definitely with capabilities
like firewalling, IP Masquerading, and a host of other stuff u can do with
linux it sure is a good solution to consider if u have support coming with
it....
"Mike Reilly" <mike_reilly_no_spam@bc.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>MS does have a fairly large advantage in most areas (except price). If
you
>have good linux techs, you can come up with some good solutions in a lot
of
>areas. Linux/Apache makes an excellent web server solution for most uses.
>Linux can be an excellent firewall solution, etc..
>
>
>>I think they still have allot of catch-up to do, Wouldn't you agree?
>>MS has the advantage of a major main stream users/companies/corp...
>
>
>

[will]

If it means anything to you, I have Linux running fine and well on a Compaq
Presario 1240 laptop. It boots better, graphics are faster, and it is much
more flexible (and so far, reliable) than Windows. No, it wasn't easy to
get it installed smoothly, but if you're devoted, it will be worth it, and
it's not as difficult as all the pro-MS/anti-Linux sheep would have you believe.
As a Java developer, I used to do any home tinkering and development in Win32.
Now I have a UNIX-like platform at home and I will NOT be going back to Windows.
Besides, for any hobbyist Linux is the ONLY choice.


"Eric Schneider" <schsoft@mwt.net> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have tried linux, years ago.. when there was little software for it and
>few drivers. How is this area now?
>
>I will keep a open mind to any OS, I have used allot of them over the years.
>
>Has anyone ever used a Amiga500> the V2.0 OS ROM was wrote by MS and the
UI
>is similar to Win95, but provided true multitasking.
>
>
>Schneider
>
>