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  1. #1
    Appu Guest

    Ordering of the attributes


    Hi,

    I have a problem with the way in which the attributes of a node
    appear in the xml file.

    Ex
    <Node attr1 = "data1" attr33 = "data33" attribute2 = "data2" /Node>

    Like the appearnce order of the attributes depends on the length of the name
    of the attribute string.
    Is there some way, in which I can make the attributes appear in the order
    I write them while creating the Xml file???
    (I use DOM API with C++)

    TIA
    Appu


  2. #2
    Mark Guest

    Re: Ordering of the attributes


    Appu,
    Why do you need them in a certain order?

    Mark

    "Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote:
    >
    >Hi,
    >
    > I have a problem with the way in which the attributes of a node
    >appear in the xml file.
    >
    >Ex
    ><Node attr1 = "data1" attr33 = "data33" attribute2 = "data2" /Node>
    >
    >Like the appearnce order of the attributes depends on the length of the

    name
    >of the attribute string.
    >Is there some way, in which I can make the attributes appear in the order
    >I write them while creating the Xml file???
    >(I use DOM API with C++)
    >
    >TIA
    >Appu
    >



  3. #3
    Appu Guest

    Re: Ordering of the attributes


    Hi Mark,

    I want them in a certain order to make them more readable....I want
    it to appear in the order I add the attributes to the node....

    Appu

    "Mark" <mknuttall@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >Appu,
    > Why do you need them in a certain order?
    >
    >Mark
    >
    >"Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>Hi,
    >>
    >> I have a problem with the way in which the attributes of a node
    >>appear in the xml file.
    >>
    >>Ex
    >><Node attr1 = "data1" attr33 = "data33" attribute2 = "data2" /Node>
    >>
    >>Like the appearnce order of the attributes depends on the length of the

    >name
    >>of the attribute string.
    >>Is there some way, in which I can make the attributes appear in the order
    >>I write them while creating the Xml file???
    >>(I use DOM API with C++)
    >>
    >>TIA
    >>Appu
    >>

    >



  4. #4
    Mark Guest

    Re: Ordering of the attributes


    I don't see why they don't appear in the order you are adding them. This
    may be parser dependent. When you say DOM and C++ are you saying Microsoft's
    parser? How are you creating the xml? Anyway, are you looking at the pure
    xml after it is created?

    Mark

    "Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote:
    >
    >Hi Mark,
    >
    > I want them in a certain order to make them more readable....I want
    >it to appear in the order I add the attributes to the node....
    >
    >Appu
    >
    >"Mark" <mknuttall@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>Appu,
    >> Why do you need them in a certain order?
    >>
    >>Mark
    >>
    >>"Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>Hi,
    >>>
    >>> I have a problem with the way in which the attributes of a node
    >>>appear in the xml file.
    >>>
    >>>Ex
    >>><Node attr1 = "data1" attr33 = "data33" attribute2 = "data2" /Node>
    >>>
    >>>Like the appearnce order of the attributes depends on the length of the

    >>name
    >>>of the attribute string.
    >>>Is there some way, in which I can make the attributes appear in the order
    >>>I write them while creating the Xml file???
    >>>(I use DOM API with C++)
    >>>
    >>>TIA
    >>>Appu
    >>>

    >>

    >



  5. #5
    Appu Guest

    Re: Ordering of the attributes


    Hi Mark,

    I think the problem is with the way DOM stores the attributes.One guy
    told me it uses a map(STL) and hence it sorts the attributes before storing
    them in the tree.That could be the reason the attributes dont appear in the
    order I set them in...

    Anyway thanks
    Appu

    "Mark" <mknuttall@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >I don't see why they don't appear in the order you are adding them. This
    >may be parser dependent. When you say DOM and C++ are you saying Microsoft's
    >parser? How are you creating the xml? Anyway, are you looking at the pure
    >xml after it is created?
    >
    >Mark
    >
    >"Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>Hi Mark,
    >>
    >> I want them in a certain order to make them more readable....I

    want
    >>it to appear in the order I add the attributes to the node....
    >>
    >>Appu
    >>
    >>"Mark" <mknuttall@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>Appu,
    >>> Why do you need them in a certain order?
    >>>
    >>>Mark
    >>>
    >>>"Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>Hi,
    >>>>
    >>>> I have a problem with the way in which the attributes of a node
    >>>>appear in the xml file.
    >>>>
    >>>>Ex
    >>>><Node attr1 = "data1" attr33 = "data33" attribute2 = "data2" /Node>
    >>>>
    >>>>Like the appearnce order of the attributes depends on the length of the
    >>>name
    >>>>of the attribute string.
    >>>>Is there some way, in which I can make the attributes appear in the order
    >>>>I write them while creating the Xml file???
    >>>>(I use DOM API with C++)
    >>>>
    >>>>TIA
    >>>>Appu
    >>>>
    >>>

    >>

    >



  6. #6
    Russell Jones Guest

    Re: Ordering of the attributes

    When I programmatically create a series of nodes, they appear in the order I
    add them using msxml3. This is a VB example, sorry, but it should be easy to
    follow. It might help people solve your problem if you post more of your
    code and XML as well as state which XML parser and version you're using.

    Dim xml As New DOMDocument
    Dim i As Integer
    Dim N As IXMLDOMNode
    Dim natt As IXMLDOMAttribute

    ' create a simple document
    xml.loadXML "<?xml version=""1.0""?><root><node1/></root>"

    ' get a reference to the node1 node
    Set N = xml.selectSingleNode("root/node1")

    ' create 10 attributes
    For i = 1 To 10
    ' create an attribute
    Set natt = xml.createAttribute("att" & CStr(i))

    ' set its text property
    natt.Text = CStr(i)

    ' append the attribute to node1
    N.Attributes.setNamedItem natt
    Next

    ' Print the attribute values
    For Each natt In N.Attributes
    Debug.Print natt.Text
    Next

    ' Ensure that the generated XML contains these attributes in sequence
    Debug.Print N.xml

    The code prints the following in the debug window:
    1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9
    10
    <node1 att1="1" att2="2" att3="3" att4="4" att5="5" att6="6" att7="7"
    att8="8" att9="9" att10="10"/>

    "Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote in message news:3aae347e$1@news.devx.com...
    >
    > Hi Mark,
    >
    > I think the problem is with the way DOM stores the attributes.One guy
    > told me it uses a map(STL) and hence it sorts the attributes before

    storing
    > them in the tree.That could be the reason the attributes dont appear in

    the
    > order I set them in...
    >





  7. #7
    Appu Guest

    Re: Ordering of the attributes


    In your code you have the same attribute names(same lengths), I have problem
    with attribute names with different length(like att1, attribute2, myAttribute3)......and
    even for same length attribute names, DOM seems to be sorting them in alphabetical
    order
    And I am using DOM Implementation with Api's from Apache site(xerces
    stuff)

    Appu
    "Russell Jones" <arj1@northstate.net> wrote:
    >When I programmatically create a series of nodes, they appear in the order

    I
    >add them using msxml3. This is a VB example, sorry, but it should be easy

    to
    >follow. It might help people solve your problem if you post more of your
    >code and XML as well as state which XML parser and version you're using.
    >
    > Dim xml As New DOMDocument
    > Dim i As Integer
    > Dim N As IXMLDOMNode
    > Dim natt As IXMLDOMAttribute
    >
    > ' create a simple document
    > xml.loadXML "<?xml version=""1.0""?><root><node1/></root>"
    >
    > ' get a reference to the node1 node
    > Set N = xml.selectSingleNode("root/node1")
    >
    > ' create 10 attributes
    > For i = 1 To 10
    > ' create an attribute
    > Set natt = xml.createAttribute("att" & CStr(i))
    >
    > ' set its text property
    > natt.Text = CStr(i)
    >
    > ' append the attribute to node1
    > N.Attributes.setNamedItem natt
    > Next
    >
    > ' Print the attribute values
    > For Each natt In N.Attributes
    > Debug.Print natt.Text
    > Next
    >
    > ' Ensure that the generated XML contains these attributes in sequence
    > Debug.Print N.xml
    >
    >The code prints the following in the debug window:
    >1
    >2
    >3
    >4
    >5
    >6
    >7
    >8
    >9
    >10
    ><node1 att1="1" att2="2" att3="3" att4="4" att5="5" att6="6" att7="7"
    >att8="8" att9="9" att10="10"/>
    >
    >"Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote in message news:3aae347e$1@news.devx.com...
    >>
    >> Hi Mark,
    >>
    >> I think the problem is with the way DOM stores the attributes.One

    guy
    >> told me it uses a map(STL) and hence it sorts the attributes before

    >storing
    >> them in the tree.That could be the reason the attributes dont appear in

    >the
    >> order I set them in...
    >>

    >
    >
    >



  8. #8
    Mark Guest

    Re: Ordering of the attributes


    Appu,
    So you are using Java? I have had the same issue with the HashMap class.
    Anyway, how looking at the XML? How are you serializing it with XMLSerializer
    or some other method? You can sort the attributes before you print/display
    them.

    Mark

    "Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote:
    >
    >In your code you have the same attribute names(same lengths), I have problem
    >with attribute names with different length(like att1, attribute2, myAttribute3)......and
    >even for same length attribute names, DOM seems to be sorting them in alphabetical
    >order
    > And I am using DOM Implementation with Api's from Apache site(xerces
    >stuff)
    >
    >Appu
    >"Russell Jones" <arj1@northstate.net> wrote:
    >>When I programmatically create a series of nodes, they appear in the order

    >I
    >>add them using msxml3. This is a VB example, sorry, but it should be easy

    >to
    >>follow. It might help people solve your problem if you post more of your
    >>code and XML as well as state which XML parser and version you're using.
    >>
    >> Dim xml As New DOMDocument
    >> Dim i As Integer
    >> Dim N As IXMLDOMNode
    >> Dim natt As IXMLDOMAttribute
    >>
    >> ' create a simple document
    >> xml.loadXML "<?xml version=""1.0""?><root><node1/></root>"
    >>
    >> ' get a reference to the node1 node
    >> Set N = xml.selectSingleNode("root/node1")
    >>
    >> ' create 10 attributes
    >> For i = 1 To 10
    >> ' create an attribute
    >> Set natt = xml.createAttribute("att" & CStr(i))
    >>
    >> ' set its text property
    >> natt.Text = CStr(i)
    >>
    >> ' append the attribute to node1
    >> N.Attributes.setNamedItem natt
    >> Next
    >>
    >> ' Print the attribute values
    >> For Each natt In N.Attributes
    >> Debug.Print natt.Text
    >> Next
    >>
    >> ' Ensure that the generated XML contains these attributes in sequence
    >> Debug.Print N.xml
    >>
    >>The code prints the following in the debug window:
    >>1
    >>2
    >>3
    >>4
    >>5
    >>6
    >>7
    >>8
    >>9
    >>10
    >><node1 att1="1" att2="2" att3="3" att4="4" att5="5" att6="6" att7="7"
    >>att8="8" att9="9" att10="10"/>
    >>
    >>"Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote in message news:3aae347e$1@news.devx.com...
    >>>
    >>> Hi Mark,
    >>>
    >>> I think the problem is with the way DOM stores the attributes.One

    >guy
    >>> told me it uses a map(STL) and hence it sorts the attributes before

    >>storing
    >>> them in the tree.That could be the reason the attributes dont appear

    in
    >>the
    >>> order I set them in...
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >>

    >



  9. #9
    Appu Guest

    Re: Ordering of the attributes


    Mark,

    No, I'm not using Java(what made you feel so??).I'm using c++, on a win32
    platform and using the DOM Api's.
    And by the way, I have solved the problem temporarily, by making the attributes
    of a node as its child nodes, ofcourse there's some overhead involved, but
    it seems to work as per my design........

    rgds
    Appu

    "Mark" <mknuttall@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >Appu,
    > So you are using Java? I have had the same issue with the HashMap class.
    > Anyway, how looking at the XML? How are you serializing it with XMLSerializer
    >or some other method? You can sort the attributes before you print/display
    >them.
    >
    >Mark
    >
    >"Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>In your code you have the same attribute names(same lengths), I have problem
    >>with attribute names with different length(like att1, attribute2, myAttribute3)......and
    >>even for same length attribute names, DOM seems to be sorting them in alphabetical
    >>order
    >> And I am using DOM Implementation with Api's from Apache site(xerces
    >>stuff)
    >>
    >>Appu
    >>"Russell Jones" <arj1@northstate.net> wrote:
    >>>When I programmatically create a series of nodes, they appear in the order

    >>I
    >>>add them using msxml3. This is a VB example, sorry, but it should be easy

    >>to
    >>>follow. It might help people solve your problem if you post more of your
    >>>code and XML as well as state which XML parser and version you're using.
    >>>
    >>> Dim xml As New DOMDocument
    >>> Dim i As Integer
    >>> Dim N As IXMLDOMNode
    >>> Dim natt As IXMLDOMAttribute
    >>>
    >>> ' create a simple document
    >>> xml.loadXML "<?xml version=""1.0""?><root><node1/></root>"
    >>>
    >>> ' get a reference to the node1 node
    >>> Set N = xml.selectSingleNode("root/node1")
    >>>
    >>> ' create 10 attributes
    >>> For i = 1 To 10
    >>> ' create an attribute
    >>> Set natt = xml.createAttribute("att" & CStr(i))
    >>>
    >>> ' set its text property
    >>> natt.Text = CStr(i)
    >>>
    >>> ' append the attribute to node1
    >>> N.Attributes.setNamedItem natt
    >>> Next
    >>>
    >>> ' Print the attribute values
    >>> For Each natt In N.Attributes
    >>> Debug.Print natt.Text
    >>> Next
    >>>
    >>> ' Ensure that the generated XML contains these attributes in sequence
    >>> Debug.Print N.xml
    >>>
    >>>The code prints the following in the debug window:
    >>>1
    >>>2
    >>>3
    >>>4
    >>>5
    >>>6
    >>>7
    >>>8
    >>>9
    >>>10
    >>><node1 att1="1" att2="2" att3="3" att4="4" att5="5" att6="6" att7="7"
    >>>att8="8" att9="9" att10="10"/>
    >>>
    >>>"Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote in message news:3aae347e$1@news.devx.com...
    >>>>
    >>>> Hi Mark,
    >>>>
    >>>> I think the problem is with the way DOM stores the attributes.One

    >>guy
    >>>> told me it uses a map(STL) and hence it sorts the attributes before
    >>>storing
    >>>> them in the tree.That could be the reason the attributes dont appear

    >in
    >>>the
    >>>> order I set them in...
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>

    >



  10. #10
    Mark Guest

    Re: Ordering of the attributes


    Didn't realize they had a C++ parser on the Apache site. Glad it is working.

    Mark

    "Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote:
    >
    >Mark,
    >
    > No, I'm not using Java(what made you feel so??).I'm using c++, on a win32
    >platform and using the DOM Api's.
    >And by the way, I have solved the problem temporarily, by making the attributes
    >of a node as its child nodes, ofcourse there's some overhead involved, but
    >it seems to work as per my design........
    >
    >rgds
    >Appu
    >
    >"Mark" <mknuttall@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>Appu,
    >> So you are using Java? I have had the same issue with the HashMap class.
    >> Anyway, how looking at the XML? How are you serializing it with XMLSerializer
    >>or some other method? You can sort the attributes before you print/display
    >>them.
    >>
    >>Mark
    >>
    >>"Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>In your code you have the same attribute names(same lengths), I have problem
    >>>with attribute names with different length(like att1, attribute2, myAttribute3)......and
    >>>even for same length attribute names, DOM seems to be sorting them in

    alphabetical
    >>>order
    >>> And I am using DOM Implementation with Api's from Apache site(xerces
    >>>stuff)
    >>>
    >>>Appu
    >>>"Russell Jones" <arj1@northstate.net> wrote:
    >>>>When I programmatically create a series of nodes, they appear in the

    order
    >>>I
    >>>>add them using msxml3. This is a VB example, sorry, but it should be

    easy
    >>>to
    >>>>follow. It might help people solve your problem if you post more of your
    >>>>code and XML as well as state which XML parser and version you're using.
    >>>>
    >>>> Dim xml As New DOMDocument
    >>>> Dim i As Integer
    >>>> Dim N As IXMLDOMNode
    >>>> Dim natt As IXMLDOMAttribute
    >>>>
    >>>> ' create a simple document
    >>>> xml.loadXML "<?xml version=""1.0""?><root><node1/></root>"
    >>>>
    >>>> ' get a reference to the node1 node
    >>>> Set N = xml.selectSingleNode("root/node1")
    >>>>
    >>>> ' create 10 attributes
    >>>> For i = 1 To 10
    >>>> ' create an attribute
    >>>> Set natt = xml.createAttribute("att" & CStr(i))
    >>>>
    >>>> ' set its text property
    >>>> natt.Text = CStr(i)
    >>>>
    >>>> ' append the attribute to node1
    >>>> N.Attributes.setNamedItem natt
    >>>> Next
    >>>>
    >>>> ' Print the attribute values
    >>>> For Each natt In N.Attributes
    >>>> Debug.Print natt.Text
    >>>> Next
    >>>>
    >>>> ' Ensure that the generated XML contains these attributes in sequence
    >>>> Debug.Print N.xml
    >>>>
    >>>>The code prints the following in the debug window:
    >>>>1
    >>>>2
    >>>>3
    >>>>4
    >>>>5
    >>>>6
    >>>>7
    >>>>8
    >>>>9
    >>>>10
    >>>><node1 att1="1" att2="2" att3="3" att4="4" att5="5" att6="6" att7="7"
    >>>>att8="8" att9="9" att10="10"/>
    >>>>
    >>>>"Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote in message news:3aae347e$1@news.devx.com...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Hi Mark,
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I think the problem is with the way DOM stores the attributes.One
    >>>guy
    >>>>> told me it uses a map(STL) and hence it sorts the attributes before
    >>>>storing
    >>>>> them in the tree.That could be the reason the attributes dont appear

    >>in
    >>>>the
    >>>>> order I set them in...
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>

    >>

    >



  11. #11
    Russell Jones Guest

    Re: Ordering of the attributes

    "Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote in message news:3aaf40a0$1@news.devx.com...
    >
    > In your code you have the same attribute names(same lengths), I have

    problem
    > with attribute names with different length(like att1, attribute2,

    myAttribute3)......and
    > even for same length attribute names, DOM seems to be sorting them in

    alphabetical
    > order
    > And I am using DOM Implementation with Api's from Apache

    site(xerces
    > stuff)


    No, I specifically ran the loop from 1 to 10 to ensure that that didn't
    happen. The attribute name "att10" is longer than the attribute name "att9",
    but that has no effect on the position. Similarly, if the attributes were
    being sorted alpabetically by name, the attributes "att1" and "att10" would
    appear sequentially, before "att2" -- but that doesn't happen either.
    Therefore, the current msxml3 parser maintains attributes in document order.

    However, you're not using the msxml parser. The Xerces parser apparently
    does not maintain attributes in document order. There's nothing improper
    about that. The XML spec says that parsers do not have to maintain
    attributes in document order--that the order of attributes within an element
    is not considered important to XML.

    Russell Jones
    Sr. Web Development Editor
    DevX.com






  12. #12
    TMatt Guest

    Re: Ordering of the attributes


    FYI this thread is probobly dead but here is an exerpt from the MS XML Parser
    SDK docs:

    "Because the order in which attributes appeared inside of an element is not
    considered important by XML, it may not be preserved by the XML parser."


    "Mark" <mknuttall@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >Didn't realize they had a C++ parser on the Apache site. Glad it is working.
    >
    >Mark
    >
    >"Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>Mark,
    >>
    >> No, I'm not using Java(what made you feel so??).I'm using c++, on a win32
    >>platform and using the DOM Api's.
    >>And by the way, I have solved the problem temporarily, by making the attributes
    >>of a node as its child nodes, ofcourse there's some overhead involved,

    but
    >>it seems to work as per my design........
    >>
    >>rgds
    >>Appu
    >>
    >>"Mark" <mknuttall@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>Appu,
    >>> So you are using Java? I have had the same issue with the HashMap class.
    >>> Anyway, how looking at the XML? How are you serializing it with XMLSerializer
    >>>or some other method? You can sort the attributes before you print/display
    >>>them.
    >>>
    >>>Mark
    >>>
    >>>"Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>In your code you have the same attribute names(same lengths), I have

    problem
    >>>>with attribute names with different length(like att1, attribute2, myAttribute3)......and
    >>>>even for same length attribute names, DOM seems to be sorting them in

    >alphabetical
    >>>>order
    >>>> And I am using DOM Implementation with Api's from Apache site(xerces
    >>>>stuff)
    >>>>
    >>>>Appu
    >>>>"Russell Jones" <arj1@northstate.net> wrote:
    >>>>>When I programmatically create a series of nodes, they appear in the

    >order
    >>>>I
    >>>>>add them using msxml3. This is a VB example, sorry, but it should be

    >easy
    >>>>to
    >>>>>follow. It might help people solve your problem if you post more of

    your
    >>>>>code and XML as well as state which XML parser and version you're using.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Dim xml As New DOMDocument
    >>>>> Dim i As Integer
    >>>>> Dim N As IXMLDOMNode
    >>>>> Dim natt As IXMLDOMAttribute
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ' create a simple document
    >>>>> xml.loadXML "<?xml version=""1.0""?><root><node1/></root>"
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ' get a reference to the node1 node
    >>>>> Set N = xml.selectSingleNode("root/node1")
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ' create 10 attributes
    >>>>> For i = 1 To 10
    >>>>> ' create an attribute
    >>>>> Set natt = xml.createAttribute("att" & CStr(i))
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ' set its text property
    >>>>> natt.Text = CStr(i)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ' append the attribute to node1
    >>>>> N.Attributes.setNamedItem natt
    >>>>> Next
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ' Print the attribute values
    >>>>> For Each natt In N.Attributes
    >>>>> Debug.Print natt.Text
    >>>>> Next
    >>>>>
    >>>>> ' Ensure that the generated XML contains these attributes in sequence
    >>>>> Debug.Print N.xml
    >>>>>
    >>>>>The code prints the following in the debug window:
    >>>>>1
    >>>>>2
    >>>>>3
    >>>>>4
    >>>>>5
    >>>>>6
    >>>>>7
    >>>>>8
    >>>>>9
    >>>>>10
    >>>>><node1 att1="1" att2="2" att3="3" att4="4" att5="5" att6="6" att7="7"
    >>>>>att8="8" att9="9" att10="10"/>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>"Appu" <appu@aol.com> wrote in message news:3aae347e$1@news.devx.com...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Hi Mark,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I think the problem is with the way DOM stores the attributes.One
    >>>>guy
    >>>>>> told me it uses a map(STL) and hence it sorts the attributes before
    >>>>>storing
    >>>>>> them in the tree.That could be the reason the attributes dont appear
    >>>in
    >>>>>the
    >>>>>> order I set them in...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>

    >>

    >



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