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  1. #1
    Tim Romano Guest

    Full Raw Sockets

    http://grc.com/dos/winxp.htm

    Would be interested in informed, non-evangelical responses to the article
    above.

    Tim Romano



  2. #2
    Damit Senanayake Guest

    Re: Full Raw Sockets

    "Tim Romano" <tim_romano at yahoo dot com> wrote in message
    news:3b48ab36$1@news.devx.com...
    > http://grc.com/dos/winxp.htm
    >
    > Would be interested in informed, non-evangelical responses to the article
    > above.


    IIRC, only administrators (or members of the group) can create raw
    sockets... yet another reason to not run your PC as an admin? :-) I believe
    that this whole thing is being over-hyped just to score points; Unix has had
    this capability for years and you don't hear anyone making such a fuss about
    it.

    Damit



  3. #3
    Tim Romano Guest

    Re: Full Raw Sockets

    Damit,
    Your point that only Admin can create raw sockets IS NO LONGER TRUE with
    Windows XP Home Edition. With the Home Edition of XP, anyone can create raw
    sockets. The Gibson article http://grc.com/dos/winxp.htm addresses your
    point directly.
    Tim Romano

    "Damit Senanayake" <damit@mvps.org> wrote in message
    news:3b48e3a4@news.devx.com...
    > "Tim Romano" <tim_romano at yahoo dot com> wrote in message
    > news:3b48ab36$1@news.devx.com...
    > > http://grc.com/dos/winxp.htm
    > >
    > > Would be interested in informed, non-evangelical responses to the

    article
    > > above.

    >
    > IIRC, only administrators (or members of the group) can create raw
    > sockets... yet another reason to not run your PC as an admin? :-) I

    believe
    > that this whole thing is being over-hyped just to score points; Unix has

    had
    > this capability for years and you don't hear anyone making such a fuss

    about
    > it.
    >
    > Damit
    >
    >




  4. #4
    Kunle Odutola Guest

    Re: Full Raw Sockets


    "Damit Senanayake" <damit@mvps.org> wrote in message
    news:3b48e3a4@news.devx.com...

    > IIRC, only administrators (or members of the group) can create raw
    > sockets... yet another reason to not run your PC as an admin? :-) I

    believe
    > that this whole thing is being over-hyped just to score points; Unix has

    had
    > this capability for years and you don't hear anyone making such a fuss

    about
    > it.


    Unix hasn't produced a 100 million+ non-technical users whose [badly
    configured/protected] machines can be commanded to launch DoS attacks on
    demand.
    Some but not millions.

    Kunle



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