Full Raw Sockets

[Tim Romano]

http://grc.com/dos/winxp.htm

Would be interested in informed, non-evangelical responses to the article
above.

Tim Romano

[Damit Senanayake]

"Tim Romano" <tim_romano at yahoo dot com> wrote in message
news:3b48ab36$1@news.devx.com...
> http://grc.com/dos/winxp.htm
>
> Would be interested in informed, non-evangelical responses to the article
> above.

IIRC, only administrators (or members of the group) can create raw
sockets... yet another reason to not run your PC as an admin? :-) I believe
that this whole thing is being over-hyped just to score points; Unix has had
this capability for years and you don't hear anyone making such a fuss about
it.

Damit

[Tim Romano]

Damit,
Your point that only Admin can create raw sockets IS NO LONGER TRUE with
Windows XP Home Edition. With the Home Edition of XP, anyone can create raw
sockets. The Gibson article http://grc.com/dos/winxp.htm addresses your
point directly.
Tim Romano

"Damit Senanayake" <damit@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:3b48e3a4@news.devx.com...
> "Tim Romano" <tim_romano at yahoo dot com> wrote in message
> news:3b48ab36$1@news.devx.com...
> > http://grc.com/dos/winxp.htm
> >
> > Would be interested in informed, non-evangelical responses to the
article
> > above.
>
> IIRC, only administrators (or members of the group) can create raw
> sockets... yet another reason to not run your PC as an admin? :-) I
believe
> that this whole thing is being over-hyped just to score points; Unix has
had
> this capability for years and you don't hear anyone making such a fuss
about
> it.
>
> Damit
>
>

[Kunle Odutola]

"Damit Senanayake" <damit@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:3b48e3a4@news.devx.com...

> IIRC, only administrators (or members of the group) can create raw
> sockets... yet another reason to not run your PC as an admin? :-) I
believe
> that this whole thing is being over-hyped just to score points; Unix has
had
> this capability for years and you don't hear anyone making such a fuss
about
> it.

Unix hasn't produced a 100 million+ non-technical users whose [badly
configured/protected] machines can be commanded to launch DoS attacks on
demand.
Some but not millions.

Kunle