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  1. #31
    Karl E. Peterson Guest

    Re: strPtr()?

    Hi Phil --

    > > Thought DevX would've found
    > > http://www.mvps.org/vb/tips/varptr.htm

    >
    > Karl: It does, it's the number one hit!


    Kewl! :-)

    > I searched MSDN because John asked
    > whether it was "documented," by which I assumed he meant by Microsoft.


    Well, I guess having an article by Matt Curland *clearly* wouldn't qualify in that
    regard, especially given it's posted as "undoc'd." ;-)

    Thanks... Karl




  2. #32
    Karl E. Peterson Guest

    Re: strPtr()?

    Hi Phil --

    > > I do not think multiposting to msnews and DevX is useful
    > > as it forces conversations to not be easily followable in both
    > > places, etc.

    >
    > Michael: I completely agree. Unfortunately, we have no jurisdiction over
    > what people post to other servers. All I can do is try to make these groups
    > so much more valuable that people won't feel the need to post elsewhere
    > (looks like our shill David Mark is doing a good job at making msnews less
    > appealing. :-).


    Heh, and guess where the traffic's going! The plan's a-workin', yessirree, bob!

    > P.S. -- That's a JOKE, people! :-)


    Oh. (<garrett>Me too!</garrett>)

    Later... Karl




  3. #33
    Karl E. Peterson Guest

    Re: strPtr()?

    Hi Phil --

    > > I do not think multiposting to msnews and DevX is useful
    > > as it forces conversations to not be easily followable in both
    > > places, etc.

    >
    > Michael: I completely agree. Unfortunately, we have no jurisdiction over
    > what people post to other servers. All I can do is try to make these groups
    > so much more valuable that people won't feel the need to post elsewhere
    > (looks like our shill David Mark is doing a good job at making msnews less
    > appealing. :-).


    Heh, and guess where the traffic's going! The plan's a-workin', yessirree, bob!

    > P.S. -- That's a JOKE, people! :-)


    Oh. (<garrett>Me too!</garrett>)

    Later... Karl




  4. #34
    Mike Guest

    Re: strPtr()?


    Re: Text1.Clear

    Oops, I didn't realise it didn't work, I just thought it was there for compatibility.

    I have always wondered why the Frame control had an additem method

    Mike

    "Larry Triezenberg" <ltriez@pathsys.com> wrote:
    >Phil, that's kind of what I figured, but since it was posted as (potentially
    >useful) information I thought that I might be somehow missing something...
    >
    >Larry Triezenberg
    >"What should it be if it shouldn't be fun?" (John Hartford)
    >
    >Phil Weber wrote in message <3906c69f$1@news.devx.com>...
    >>Larry: AddItem, Clear, _Default and RemoveItem are defined for most of

    VB's
    >>intrinsic controls. I suspect that these controls implement a standard
    >>interface which includes these methods, but only certain controls (such

    as
    >>List- and ComboBoxes) actually support them.

    >
    >



  5. #35
    Mike Guest

    Re: strPtr()?


    Re: Text1.Clear

    Oops, I didn't realise it didn't work, I just thought it was there for compatibility.

    I have always wondered why the Frame control had an additem method

    Mike

    "Larry Triezenberg" <ltriez@pathsys.com> wrote:
    >Phil, that's kind of what I figured, but since it was posted as (potentially
    >useful) information I thought that I might be somehow missing something...
    >
    >Larry Triezenberg
    >"What should it be if it shouldn't be fun?" (John Hartford)
    >
    >Phil Weber wrote in message <3906c69f$1@news.devx.com>...
    >>Larry: AddItem, Clear, _Default and RemoveItem are defined for most of

    VB's
    >>intrinsic controls. I suspect that these controls implement a standard
    >>interface which includes these methods, but only certain controls (such

    as
    >>List- and ComboBoxes) actually support them.

    >
    >



  6. #36
    - John of Arc - Guest

    Re: strPtr()?

    I only posted the question in the two places, and that with much fear and
    trepidation.

    As I use OE5, I don't know how to double-post to two ngs on two different
    servers.
    Feel free to inform me, if it is possible at all.

    The way it actually works in my experience is that I post a question and the
    answers come filtering in one every few days over the next couple of weeks,
    if anyone answers at all. So, if one wants an answer, one posts to all of
    the places where the question is appropriate, especially given that
    generally the audiences don't seem to overlap. I think posting to these two
    API newsgroups is completely in order to get exposure. Often, there are a
    number of insights into a particular matter posted by different people, so
    simply getting a single "answer" really isn't a tremendously ambitious goal
    when trying to find out about a topic.

    Unless I am not seeing all the posts to the other group, one will have to
    define "myriad" as meaning "5". And, given that the discussion there is
    basically redundant, the actual meaningful number of informative posts is
    more like "2".

    Thanks everyone for the responses to both ngs.


    Michael (michka) Kaplan <former_mvp@spamfree.trigeminal.nospam.com> wrote in
    message news:390739c2$1@news.devx.com...
    > LOL, no problem. I just wish people would pick a place and then give

    people
    > a chance to answer before picking somewhere else..... considering how
    > quickly people posted answers and all.
    >
    > I do not think multiposting to msnews and devx is useful as it forces
    > conversations to not be easily followable in both places, etc.
    >
    > --
    > MichKa
    > (insensitive fruitarian)
    >
    > random junk of dubious value, a multilingual website, the
    > 54-language TSI Form/Report to Data Access Page Wizard,
    > and lots of replication "stuff" at the (no scripts required!)
    > http://www.trigeminal.com/
    >
    >
    > "Phil Weber" <pweber@teleport.com> wrote in message
    > news:39068886$1@news.devx.com...
    > > > microsoft.public.vb.winapi is where I saw him post....

    > >
    > > Michael: Thanks. I searched on deja.com before I asked, but couldn't

    find
    > > anything. I was mostly concerned that he may have multi-posted to this
    > > server, where I can do something about it. ;-)
    > > ---
    > > Phil Weber
    > >
    > >

    >
    >




  7. #37
    - John of Arc - Guest

    Re: strPtr()?

    I only posted the question in the two places, and that with much fear and
    trepidation.

    As I use OE5, I don't know how to double-post to two ngs on two different
    servers.
    Feel free to inform me, if it is possible at all.

    The way it actually works in my experience is that I post a question and the
    answers come filtering in one every few days over the next couple of weeks,
    if anyone answers at all. So, if one wants an answer, one posts to all of
    the places where the question is appropriate, especially given that
    generally the audiences don't seem to overlap. I think posting to these two
    API newsgroups is completely in order to get exposure. Often, there are a
    number of insights into a particular matter posted by different people, so
    simply getting a single "answer" really isn't a tremendously ambitious goal
    when trying to find out about a topic.

    Unless I am not seeing all the posts to the other group, one will have to
    define "myriad" as meaning "5". And, given that the discussion there is
    basically redundant, the actual meaningful number of informative posts is
    more like "2".

    Thanks everyone for the responses to both ngs.


    Michael (michka) Kaplan <former_mvp@spamfree.trigeminal.nospam.com> wrote in
    message news:390739c2$1@news.devx.com...
    > LOL, no problem. I just wish people would pick a place and then give

    people
    > a chance to answer before picking somewhere else..... considering how
    > quickly people posted answers and all.
    >
    > I do not think multiposting to msnews and devx is useful as it forces
    > conversations to not be easily followable in both places, etc.
    >
    > --
    > MichKa
    > (insensitive fruitarian)
    >
    > random junk of dubious value, a multilingual website, the
    > 54-language TSI Form/Report to Data Access Page Wizard,
    > and lots of replication "stuff" at the (no scripts required!)
    > http://www.trigeminal.com/
    >
    >
    > "Phil Weber" <pweber@teleport.com> wrote in message
    > news:39068886$1@news.devx.com...
    > > > microsoft.public.vb.winapi is where I saw him post....

    > >
    > > Michael: Thanks. I searched on deja.com before I asked, but couldn't

    find
    > > anything. I was mostly concerned that he may have multi-posted to this
    > > server, where I can do something about it. ;-)
    > > ---
    > > Phil Weber
    > >
    > >

    >
    >




  8. #38
    Michael \(michka\) Kaplan Guest

    Re: strPtr()?

    Fine Jon.

    I will be filtering all your posts in the future. Others will do so as well,
    they will just not mention it. But the fact that you have absolutely no
    interest in the fact that many people do look at both servers and the fact
    that every argument you use below are the SAME rationalizations that people
    use when they post SPAM to multiple sites should be your clue that you are
    doing something that is more than just a tad inappropriate.

    Good luck with your future questions and collating the various answers you
    get from ultiople places (most of whom will not now about each other or be
    able to follow answers in other places). Such determined wishy-washiness is
    admirable, I guess. :-(


    --
    MichKa
    "Cause it's a bittersweet symphony, thats life..." -- The Verve

    random junk of dubious value, at the multilingual,
    no scripts required, http://www.trigeminal.com/

    "- John of Arc -" <666@666.666> wrote in message
    news:3907acb5@news.devx.com...
    > I only posted the question in the two places, and that with much fear and
    > trepidation.
    >
    > As I use OE5, I don't know how to double-post to two ngs on two different
    > servers.
    > Feel free to inform me, if it is possible at all.
    >
    > The way it actually works in my experience is that I post a question and

    the
    > answers come filtering in one every few days over the next couple of

    weeks,
    > if anyone answers at all. So, if one wants an answer, one posts to all of
    > the places where the question is appropriate, especially given that
    > generally the audiences don't seem to overlap. I think posting to these

    two
    > API newsgroups is completely in order to get exposure. Often, there are a
    > number of insights into a particular matter posted by different people, so
    > simply getting a single "answer" really isn't a tremendously ambitious

    goal
    > when trying to find out about a topic.
    >
    > Unless I am not seeing all the posts to the other group, one will have to
    > define "myriad" as meaning "5". And, given that the discussion there is
    > basically redundant, the actual meaningful number of informative posts is
    > more like "2".
    >
    > Thanks everyone for the responses to both ngs.
    >
    >
    > Michael (michka) Kaplan <former_mvp@spamfree.trigeminal.nospam.com> wrote

    in
    > message news:390739c2$1@news.devx.com...
    > > LOL, no problem. I just wish people would pick a place and then give

    > people
    > > a chance to answer before picking somewhere else..... considering how
    > > quickly people posted answers and all.
    > >
    > > I do not think multiposting to msnews and devx is useful as it forces
    > > conversations to not be easily followable in both places, etc.
    > >
    > > --
    > > MichKa
    > > (insensitive fruitarian)
    > >
    > > random junk of dubious value, a multilingual website, the
    > > 54-language TSI Form/Report to Data Access Page Wizard,
    > > and lots of replication "stuff" at the (no scripts required!)
    > > http://www.trigeminal.com/
    > >
    > >
    > > "Phil Weber" <pweber@teleport.com> wrote in message
    > > news:39068886$1@news.devx.com...
    > > > > microsoft.public.vb.winapi is where I saw him post....
    > > >
    > > > Michael: Thanks. I searched on deja.com before I asked, but couldn't

    > find
    > > > anything. I was mostly concerned that he may have multi-posted to this
    > > > server, where I can do something about it. ;-)
    > > > ---
    > > > Phil Weber
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >




  9. #39
    Michael \(michka\) Kaplan Guest

    Re: strPtr()?

    Fine Jon.

    I will be filtering all your posts in the future. Others will do so as well,
    they will just not mention it. But the fact that you have absolutely no
    interest in the fact that many people do look at both servers and the fact
    that every argument you use below are the SAME rationalizations that people
    use when they post SPAM to multiple sites should be your clue that you are
    doing something that is more than just a tad inappropriate.

    Good luck with your future questions and collating the various answers you
    get from ultiople places (most of whom will not now about each other or be
    able to follow answers in other places). Such determined wishy-washiness is
    admirable, I guess. :-(


    --
    MichKa
    "Cause it's a bittersweet symphony, thats life..." -- The Verve

    random junk of dubious value, at the multilingual,
    no scripts required, http://www.trigeminal.com/

    "- John of Arc -" <666@666.666> wrote in message
    news:3907acb5@news.devx.com...
    > I only posted the question in the two places, and that with much fear and
    > trepidation.
    >
    > As I use OE5, I don't know how to double-post to two ngs on two different
    > servers.
    > Feel free to inform me, if it is possible at all.
    >
    > The way it actually works in my experience is that I post a question and

    the
    > answers come filtering in one every few days over the next couple of

    weeks,
    > if anyone answers at all. So, if one wants an answer, one posts to all of
    > the places where the question is appropriate, especially given that
    > generally the audiences don't seem to overlap. I think posting to these

    two
    > API newsgroups is completely in order to get exposure. Often, there are a
    > number of insights into a particular matter posted by different people, so
    > simply getting a single "answer" really isn't a tremendously ambitious

    goal
    > when trying to find out about a topic.
    >
    > Unless I am not seeing all the posts to the other group, one will have to
    > define "myriad" as meaning "5". And, given that the discussion there is
    > basically redundant, the actual meaningful number of informative posts is
    > more like "2".
    >
    > Thanks everyone for the responses to both ngs.
    >
    >
    > Michael (michka) Kaplan <former_mvp@spamfree.trigeminal.nospam.com> wrote

    in
    > message news:390739c2$1@news.devx.com...
    > > LOL, no problem. I just wish people would pick a place and then give

    > people
    > > a chance to answer before picking somewhere else..... considering how
    > > quickly people posted answers and all.
    > >
    > > I do not think multiposting to msnews and devx is useful as it forces
    > > conversations to not be easily followable in both places, etc.
    > >
    > > --
    > > MichKa
    > > (insensitive fruitarian)
    > >
    > > random junk of dubious value, a multilingual website, the
    > > 54-language TSI Form/Report to Data Access Page Wizard,
    > > and lots of replication "stuff" at the (no scripts required!)
    > > http://www.trigeminal.com/
    > >
    > >
    > > "Phil Weber" <pweber@teleport.com> wrote in message
    > > news:39068886$1@news.devx.com...
    > > > > microsoft.public.vb.winapi is where I saw him post....
    > > >
    > > > Michael: Thanks. I searched on deja.com before I asked, but couldn't

    > find
    > > > anything. I was mostly concerned that he may have multi-posted to this
    > > > server, where I can do something about it. ;-)
    > > > ---
    > > > Phil Weber
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >

    >
    >




  10. #40
    Matthew Solnit Guest

    Re: strPtr()?

    I don't think your comparison to spam is fair. John wasn't posting to
    groups where his question was off-topic. They are two separate places to
    discuss the same thing. There are several other VB forums at web sites like
    CodeGuru. Should he avoid these as well, because it would be easier if
    everybody just picked one?

    At first it does seem nice to only have one uber-NNTP server that everybody
    uses, instead of DevX and MSNews. But variety is good. It's better for
    people to have options when they want to discuss Visual Basic or anything
    else. I think there is a different vibe to DevX and MSNews, and often one
    offers information that isn't on the other.

    -- Matthew Solnit
    msolnit@yahoo.com

    "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <former_mvp@spamfree.trigeminal.nospam.com> wrote
    in message news:39082203$1@news.devx.com...
    > Fine Jon.
    >
    > I will be filtering all your posts in the future. Others will do so as

    well,
    > they will just not mention it. But the fact that you have absolutely no
    > interest in the fact that many people do look at both servers and the fact
    > that every argument you use below are the SAME rationalizations that

    people
    > use when they post SPAM to multiple sites should be your clue that you are
    > doing something that is more than just a tad inappropriate.




  11. #41
    Matthew Solnit Guest

    Re: strPtr()?

    I don't think your comparison to spam is fair. John wasn't posting to
    groups where his question was off-topic. They are two separate places to
    discuss the same thing. There are several other VB forums at web sites like
    CodeGuru. Should he avoid these as well, because it would be easier if
    everybody just picked one?

    At first it does seem nice to only have one uber-NNTP server that everybody
    uses, instead of DevX and MSNews. But variety is good. It's better for
    people to have options when they want to discuss Visual Basic or anything
    else. I think there is a different vibe to DevX and MSNews, and often one
    offers information that isn't on the other.

    -- Matthew Solnit
    msolnit@yahoo.com

    "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <former_mvp@spamfree.trigeminal.nospam.com> wrote
    in message news:39082203$1@news.devx.com...
    > Fine Jon.
    >
    > I will be filtering all your posts in the future. Others will do so as

    well,
    > they will just not mention it. But the fact that you have absolutely no
    > interest in the fact that many people do look at both servers and the fact
    > that every argument you use below are the SAME rationalizations that

    people
    > use when they post SPAM to multiple sites should be your clue that you are
    > doing something that is more than just a tad inappropriate.




  12. #42
    Phil Weber Guest

    Re: strPtr()?

    > At first it does seem nice to only have one uber-NNTP
    > server that everybody uses, instead of DevX and msnews.
    > But variety is good. It's better for people to have options
    > when they want to discuss Visual Basic or anything else.
    > I think there is a different vibe to DevX and msnews, and
    > often one offers information that isn't on the other.


    Matthew: It would have been considerate of the fact that many people
    frequent both servers if he had posted his question at one site, waited a
    day or so to see if it was answered, then posted at the other if it was not.
    We can't make a rule requiring that people be considerate, but Michael is
    free to not help those he considers rude.

    The key is that this is a *community,* and if an individual puts his or her
    personal convenience ahead of the good of the community, s/he can expect to
    receive a negative reaction. Posting the same question to multiple locations
    simultaneously is the equivalent (to me, at least) of parking in a
    handicapped space: it may seem like a small thing and perhaps nobody gets
    hurt, but it has the potential to cause well-meaning people significant
    inconvenience, if they waste time answering a question in one location only
    to find that it was previously answered elsewhere. That time could have been
    spent helping someone whose question hadn't been answered. It's all about
    thinking about other people before oneself.
    ---
    Phil Weber



  13. #43
    Phil Weber Guest

    Re: strPtr()?

    > At first it does seem nice to only have one uber-NNTP
    > server that everybody uses, instead of DevX and msnews.
    > But variety is good. It's better for people to have options
    > when they want to discuss Visual Basic or anything else.
    > I think there is a different vibe to DevX and msnews, and
    > often one offers information that isn't on the other.


    Matthew: It would have been considerate of the fact that many people
    frequent both servers if he had posted his question at one site, waited a
    day or so to see if it was answered, then posted at the other if it was not.
    We can't make a rule requiring that people be considerate, but Michael is
    free to not help those he considers rude.

    The key is that this is a *community,* and if an individual puts his or her
    personal convenience ahead of the good of the community, s/he can expect to
    receive a negative reaction. Posting the same question to multiple locations
    simultaneously is the equivalent (to me, at least) of parking in a
    handicapped space: it may seem like a small thing and perhaps nobody gets
    hurt, but it has the potential to cause well-meaning people significant
    inconvenience, if they waste time answering a question in one location only
    to find that it was previously answered elsewhere. That time could have been
    spent helping someone whose question hadn't been answered. It's all about
    thinking about other people before oneself.
    ---
    Phil Weber



  14. #44
    Mike Guest

    Re: strPtr()?


    John,

    If you are not getting enough responses, maybe you should change your question.
    If you post something like 'My App Crashes - Can anyone help' you will get
    very little response. If you take the time to narrow down the problem and
    post something like 'My app crashes on this line when doing this' you will
    get alot more responses.

    And use at least a vaguely believeable email address.

    Mike

    "- John of Arc -" <666@666.666> wrote:
    >I only posted the question in the two places, and that with much fear and
    >trepidation.
    >
    >As I use OE5, I don't know how to double-post to two ngs on two different
    >servers.
    >Feel free to inform me, if it is possible at all.
    >
    >The way it actually works in my experience is that I post a question and

    the
    >answers come filtering in one every few days over the next couple of weeks,
    >if anyone answers at all. So, if one wants an answer, one posts to all

    of
    >the places where the question is appropriate, especially given that
    >generally the audiences don't seem to overlap. I think posting to these

    two
    >API newsgroups is completely in order to get exposure. Often, there are

    a
    >number of insights into a particular matter posted by different people,

    so
    >simply getting a single "answer" really isn't a tremendously ambitious goal
    >when trying to find out about a topic.
    >
    >Unless I am not seeing all the posts to the other group, one will have

    to
    >define "myriad" as meaning "5". And, given that the discussion there is
    >basically redundant, the actual meaningful number of informative posts is
    >more like "2".
    >
    >Thanks everyone for the responses to both ngs.
    >
    >
    >Michael (michka) Kaplan <former_mvp@spamfree.trigeminal.nospam.com> wrote

    in
    >message news:390739c2$1@news.devx.com...
    >> LOL, no problem. I just wish people would pick a place and then give

    >people
    >> a chance to answer before picking somewhere else..... considering how
    >> quickly people posted answers and all.
    >>
    >> I do not think multiposting to msnews and devx is useful as it forces
    >> conversations to not be easily followable in both places, etc.
    >>
    >> --
    >> MichKa
    >> (insensitive fruitarian)
    >>
    >> random junk of dubious value, a multilingual website, the
    >> 54-language TSI Form/Report to Data Access Page Wizard,
    >> and lots of replication "stuff" at the (no scripts required!)
    >> http://www.trigeminal.com/
    >>
    >>
    >> "Phil Weber" <pweber@teleport.com> wrote in message
    >> news:39068886$1@news.devx.com...
    >> > > microsoft.public.vb.winapi is where I saw him post....
    >> >
    >> > Michael: Thanks. I searched on deja.com before I asked, but couldn't

    >find
    >> > anything. I was mostly concerned that he may have multi-posted to this
    >> > server, where I can do something about it. ;-)
    >> > ---
    >> > Phil Weber
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >>

    >
    >



  15. #45
    Mike Guest

    Re: strPtr()?


    John,

    If you are not getting enough responses, maybe you should change your question.
    If you post something like 'My App Crashes - Can anyone help' you will get
    very little response. If you take the time to narrow down the problem and
    post something like 'My app crashes on this line when doing this' you will
    get alot more responses.

    And use at least a vaguely believeable email address.

    Mike

    "- John of Arc -" <666@666.666> wrote:
    >I only posted the question in the two places, and that with much fear and
    >trepidation.
    >
    >As I use OE5, I don't know how to double-post to two ngs on two different
    >servers.
    >Feel free to inform me, if it is possible at all.
    >
    >The way it actually works in my experience is that I post a question and

    the
    >answers come filtering in one every few days over the next couple of weeks,
    >if anyone answers at all. So, if one wants an answer, one posts to all

    of
    >the places where the question is appropriate, especially given that
    >generally the audiences don't seem to overlap. I think posting to these

    two
    >API newsgroups is completely in order to get exposure. Often, there are

    a
    >number of insights into a particular matter posted by different people,

    so
    >simply getting a single "answer" really isn't a tremendously ambitious goal
    >when trying to find out about a topic.
    >
    >Unless I am not seeing all the posts to the other group, one will have

    to
    >define "myriad" as meaning "5". And, given that the discussion there is
    >basically redundant, the actual meaningful number of informative posts is
    >more like "2".
    >
    >Thanks everyone for the responses to both ngs.
    >
    >
    >Michael (michka) Kaplan <former_mvp@spamfree.trigeminal.nospam.com> wrote

    in
    >message news:390739c2$1@news.devx.com...
    >> LOL, no problem. I just wish people would pick a place and then give

    >people
    >> a chance to answer before picking somewhere else..... considering how
    >> quickly people posted answers and all.
    >>
    >> I do not think multiposting to msnews and devx is useful as it forces
    >> conversations to not be easily followable in both places, etc.
    >>
    >> --
    >> MichKa
    >> (insensitive fruitarian)
    >>
    >> random junk of dubious value, a multilingual website, the
    >> 54-language TSI Form/Report to Data Access Page Wizard,
    >> and lots of replication "stuff" at the (no scripts required!)
    >> http://www.trigeminal.com/
    >>
    >>
    >> "Phil Weber" <pweber@teleport.com> wrote in message
    >> news:39068886$1@news.devx.com...
    >> > > microsoft.public.vb.winapi is where I saw him post....
    >> >
    >> > Michael: Thanks. I searched on deja.com before I asked, but couldn't

    >find
    >> > anything. I was mostly concerned that he may have multi-posted to this
    >> > server, where I can do something about it. ;-)
    >> > ---
    >> > Phil Weber
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >>

    >
    >



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