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  1. #1
    Peter Mount Guest

    Crystal Reports vs DataReports


    Hello

    I have the free version of Crystal Reports that comes with VB6. Is Crystal
    Reports
    better than MS DataReports? Are there any good online tutorials that cover
    passing
    more than one parameter?

    Thanks

    Peter Mount

  2. #2
    Karine Guest

    Re: Crystal Reports vs DataReports


    Hi,

    CR is definitly better then DataReport... you can go on the Seagate web site
    to get infos on the software...

    KP

    "Peter Mount" <pamount@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
    >
    >Hello
    >
    >I have the free version of Crystal Reports that comes with VB6. Is Crystal
    >Reports
    >better than MS DataReports? Are there any good online tutorials that cover
    >passing
    >more than one parameter?
    >
    >Thanks
    >
    >Peter Mount



  3. #3
    Chris Hylton Guest

    Re: Crystal Reports vs DataReports


    I think this question has been asked before...were you the one who posted
    the same question a couple weeks back ?

    Anyway...it really depends on what you are trying to accomplish. MS DataReports
    are MUCH lighter weight and faster (when opening and initializing) than Crystal
    Reports. I've used both extensively, Crystal much more because it's been
    around longer, but in a situation where a small, simple report is needed...the
    MS report will be a better choice hands down.

    The advantage of something like Crystal is the ability to build subreports
    and more long term growth potential for complex reports...it also offers
    many more events and methods to support this higher level of flexibility...but
    I'm not sure that the free version supports (in fact I know it doesn't) many
    of these more flexible features...so then, you are looking at spending $500
    to get the heavy duty version of Crystal.

    In my experience, Crystal is slow and can be a real pain in the butt if you
    and someone else are building apps that both use Crystal (but different versions)...I've
    had numerous situations where Crystal DLLs became a big pain in the butt
    between my software and some other package I had no control over...The DLLs
    are most definitely not 'reverse compatible' in all situations.

    If you end up looking to buy a reporting package...I would highly suggest
    that you consider DataDynamics ActiveReports...it offers the best of both
    worlds...speed of a MS DataReport and the flexiblity (even more IMHO) than
    Crystal. I've been using that for virtually all my application reporting
    needs for a couple of years now and I'm very pleased with it.

    On a personal note...I avoid Crystal like the plague...just my personal position
    though...I think it's one of the slowest, most cumbersome, worst designed
    products out there...but that's just me :-) Unfortunately, there isn't too
    much competition out there for reporting tools of this nature...so your choices
    are pretty limited. Yea, Crystal offers a ton of functionality...but most
    of it you never use (at least I haven't) and the headache of these other
    issues far outweigh the benefits of Crystal in my experience.

    Chris

    "Peter Mount" <pamount@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
    >
    >Hello
    >
    >I have the free version of Crystal Reports that comes with VB6. Is Crystal
    >Reports
    >better than MS DataReports? Are there any good online tutorials that cover
    >passing
    >more than one parameter?
    >
    >Thanks
    >
    >Peter Mount



  4. #4
    Peter Mount Guest

    Re: Crystal Reports vs DataReports

    Hello

    Thanks for your advice.

    I don't think I asked that question before. However, as I've had a bad head
    cold the past few weeks, it's possible I did but since forgot about it.
    Though I just checked my "sent items" folder and there's is no record of it.

    As it happens I just had success with DataReports.

    I'll have a look at DataDynamics ActiveReports.

    Have a good day

    Peter Mount
    pamount@iprimus.com.au

    "Chris Hylton" <chrishylton@excite.com> wrote in message
    news:3b90e027$1@news.devx.com...
    >
    > I think this question has been asked before...were you the one who posted
    > the same question a couple weeks back ?
    >
    > Anyway...it really depends on what you are trying to accomplish. MS

    DataReports
    > are MUCH lighter weight and faster (when opening and initializing) than

    Crystal
    > Reports. I've used both extensively, Crystal much more because it's been
    > around longer, but in a situation where a small, simple report is

    needed...the
    > MS report will be a better choice hands down.
    >
    > The advantage of something like Crystal is the ability to build subreports
    > and more long term growth potential for complex reports...it also offers
    > many more events and methods to support this higher level of

    flexibility...but
    > I'm not sure that the free version supports (in fact I know it doesn't)

    many
    > of these more flexible features...so then, you are looking at spending

    $500
    > to get the heavy duty version of Crystal.
    >
    > In my experience, Crystal is slow and can be a real pain in the butt if

    you
    > and someone else are building apps that both use Crystal (but different

    versions)...I've
    > had numerous situations where Crystal DLLs became a big pain in the butt
    > between my software and some other package I had no control over...The

    DLLs
    > are most definitely not 'reverse compatible' in all situations.
    >
    > If you end up looking to buy a reporting package...I would highly suggest
    > that you consider DataDynamics ActiveReports...it offers the best of both
    > worlds...speed of a MS DataReport and the flexiblity (even more IMHO) than
    > Crystal. I've been using that for virtually all my application reporting
    > needs for a couple of years now and I'm very pleased with it.
    >
    > On a personal note...I avoid Crystal like the plague...just my personal

    position
    > though...I think it's one of the slowest, most cumbersome, worst designed
    > products out there...but that's just me :-) Unfortunately, there isn't too
    > much competition out there for reporting tools of this nature...so your

    choices
    > are pretty limited. Yea, Crystal offers a ton of functionality...but most
    > of it you never use (at least I haven't) and the headache of these other
    > issues far outweigh the benefits of Crystal in my experience.
    >
    > Chris
    >
    > "Peter Mount" <pamount@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
    > >
    > >Hello
    > >
    > >I have the free version of Crystal Reports that comes with VB6. Is

    Crystal
    > >Reports
    > >better than MS DataReports? Are there any good online tutorials that

    cover
    > >passing
    > >more than one parameter?
    > >
    > >Thanks
    > >
    > >Peter Mount

    >




  5. #5
    Jesse Guest

    Re: Crystal Reports vs DataReports


    The version of Crystal Reports that shipped in VB 6 was a much older version
    of Crystal Reports.

    Download beta 2 of Visual Studio .NET and try out the new custom build of
    Crystal Reports for Visual Studio .NET and the .NET Framework. I think you'll
    be more than pleased. You'll also notice that Microsoft liked it so much
    that they didn't include their own report software.

    P.S. Even going between version 7 and version 8 of Crystal Reports say a
    speed increase of over 10x.

    Regards,


    Jesse

    "Peter Mount" <pmount@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
    >Hello
    >
    >Thanks for your advice.
    >
    >I don't think I asked that question before. However, as I've had a bad

    head
    >cold the past few weeks, it's possible I did but since forgot about it.
    >Though I just checked my "sent items" folder and there's is no record of

    it.
    >
    >As it happens I just had success with DataReports.
    >
    >I'll have a look at DataDynamics ActiveReports.
    >
    >Have a good day
    >
    >Peter Mount
    >pamount@iprimus.com.au
    >
    >"Chris Hylton" <chrishylton@excite.com> wrote in message
    >news:3b90e027$1@news.devx.com...
    >>
    >> I think this question has been asked before...were you the one who posted
    >> the same question a couple weeks back ?
    >>
    >> Anyway...it really depends on what you are trying to accomplish. MS

    >DataReports
    >> are MUCH lighter weight and faster (when opening and initializing) than

    >Crystal
    >> Reports. I've used both extensively, Crystal much more because it's been
    >> around longer, but in a situation where a small, simple report is

    >needed...the
    >> MS report will be a better choice hands down.
    >>
    >> The advantage of something like Crystal is the ability to build subreports
    >> and more long term growth potential for complex reports...it also offers
    >> many more events and methods to support this higher level of

    >flexibility...but
    >> I'm not sure that the free version supports (in fact I know it doesn't)

    >many
    >> of these more flexible features...so then, you are looking at spending

    >$500
    >> to get the heavy duty version of Crystal.
    >>
    >> In my experience, Crystal is slow and can be a real pain in the butt if

    >you
    >> and someone else are building apps that both use Crystal (but different

    >versions)...I've
    >> had numerous situations where Crystal DLLs became a big pain in the butt
    >> between my software and some other package I had no control over...The

    >DLLs
    >> are most definitely not 'reverse compatible' in all situations.
    >>
    >> If you end up looking to buy a reporting package...I would highly suggest
    >> that you consider DataDynamics ActiveReports...it offers the best of both
    >> worlds...speed of a MS DataReport and the flexiblity (even more IMHO)

    than
    >> Crystal. I've been using that for virtually all my application reporting
    >> needs for a couple of years now and I'm very pleased with it.
    >>
    >> On a personal note...I avoid Crystal like the plague...just my personal

    >position
    >> though...I think it's one of the slowest, most cumbersome, worst designed
    >> products out there...but that's just me :-) Unfortunately, there isn't

    too
    >> much competition out there for reporting tools of this nature...so your

    >choices
    >> are pretty limited. Yea, Crystal offers a ton of functionality...but

    most
    >> of it you never use (at least I haven't) and the headache of these other
    >> issues far outweigh the benefits of Crystal in my experience.
    >>
    >> Chris
    >>
    >> "Peter Mount" <pamount@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >Hello
    >> >
    >> >I have the free version of Crystal Reports that comes with VB6. Is

    >Crystal
    >> >Reports
    >> >better than MS DataReports? Are there any good online tutorials that

    >cover
    >> >passing
    >> >more than one parameter?
    >> >
    >> >Thanks
    >> >
    >> >Peter Mount

    >>

    >
    >



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