Enough Language Bigotry!

[John Proffitt]

"Joe \"Nuke Me Xemu\" Foster" <joe@bftsi0.UUCP> wrote:
>Isn't it mainly Bill himself pushing Basic? If he's taking less of a
>hands-on approach now, that leaves the braceheads running the show.
>Don't get me wrong, I *like* C and C++, but I have to vote for what
>consistently gets the deliverables signed off.
>

There a lot to like about C and C++. Low level operators, high level semantics,
concise syntax, a nearly endless supply of features and fixtures. Something
for everyone. From my point of view the main drawback is complexity. With
complexity comes power -- but also confusion. That explains why so many
C++ programmers seldom venture outside a comfortable subset of the language.

Another drawback is the development environment. I have always wondered
why Microsoft didn't build a VB-like IDE that used C++ as the language you
use to fill in the events on forms and controls. You would save a lot of
time coding and a **** of a lot of time trudging up the learning curve with
MFC, OLE and <acronym du jour>... and you could make API calls without going
through unnatural contortions. Maybe that's what C# is supposed to be?

[Steve Dee]

Sjoerd......what type of application?


"Sjoerd Verweij" <nospam.sjoerd@sjoerd.org> wrote in message
news:3a8d8819$2@news.devx.com...
> Nolly,
>
> My point -- and I think I'm far from alone on this -- is that if you sit a
> competent VB programmer next to a competent C++ programmer and ask them to
> code an application, the VB programmer will be done and at the pub before
> the C++ programmer is done hooking up his form code.
>
> If you do not agree, that's fine. If you want to prove you're right, I
> challenge you to do exactly what I described above -- with me as the VB
> programmer and you as the C++ programmer.
>
> HTH,
> Sjoerd
>
>

[Sjoerd Verweij]

> Sjoerd......what type of application?

Oh, if I'd get to pick, I'd say an ActiveX DLL that uses other ActiveX DLLs,
connects to a database, has a few db maintenance forms (with some common
controls), stuff like that.

[Steve Dee]

Sjoerd,
no way in **** I would take that bet! You just can't beat VB for GUI's
(well, you can with .NET, but NOT with C++) other than that though, ATL
Active X Dll's are not much harder than with VB and you have more
control....development times are about the same (if you already know C/C++).
DB stuff with ADO is a bit harder, but not that bad...but GUI's? Forget it!
VB wins. Unless you try to pull off API stuff....then, well, you might have
a contest there.

"Sjoerd Verweij" <nospam.sjoerd@sjoerd.org> wrote in message
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> > Sjoerd......what type of application?
>
> Oh, if I'd get to pick, I'd say an ActiveX DLL that uses other ActiveX
DLLs,
> connects to a database, has a few db maintenance forms (with some common
> controls), stuff like that.
>
>
>
>

[Sjoerd Verweij]

> no way in **** I would take that bet!

Exactly :-)