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    MP Guest

    DOT NET Beta 2 .. anyone hear about it ???


    did any one of you folks hear about Beta 2 release yet..

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    simon Guest

    Re: DOT NET Beta 2 .. anyone hear about it ???

    Well, Microsoft has to make up their mind first on whether VB.NET should be
    compatible to the other .NET tools or compatible to VB6..... hmmm, that will
    take a while, ha.

    IMHO, they should release a VB7 for the VB6 folks and keep the VB.NET
    compatible to the .NET platform. Kind of like keeping Windows 9x and
    Windows NT/2000 on a dual track, so everybody is happy. =)

    simon.


    "MP" <manupuri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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    > did any one of you folks hear about Beta 2 release yet..




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    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: DOT NET Beta 2 .. anyone hear about it ???

    On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:03:18 -0500, "simon" <substring0@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >IMHO, they should release a VB7 for the VB6 folks and keep the VB.NET
    >compatible to the .NET platform. Kind of like keeping Windows 9x and
    >Windows NT/2000 on a dual track, so everybody is happy. =)


    You think a VB7 will make Everybody happy? I don't. If there was a VB7
    then there would be endless bickering over exactly what new features
    should be added - many of them being in vb.net, things like threads and an
    easy way to handle window's messages.


    ---
    Ice Z - Straight Outta Redmond

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    Jason Thorn Guest

    Re: DOT NET Beta 2 .. anyone hear about it ???

    I think it's an attempt at a concession . . . Try and meet the opposition
    halfway will ya?

    I think a VB7 for the .fred crowd and a VB# for the .net crowd would be a
    good idea. VB7 wouldn't make everyone happy, nothing will make everyone
    happy for that matter. But I sure don't hear the VC++ developers *****ing
    that their language was replaced with C#. I personally would love to see a
    'pure' version of VB, that isn't embedded with any particular technology (or
    at least allow for compiler extensions to support specific platforms [COM,
    ..NET, etc.]) Of course that's dreaming way beyond the realm of what's
    realistic now, but it's still nice to dream.

    "Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
    news:3ae887ea.183015015@news.devx.com...
    > On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:03:18 -0500, "simon" <substring0@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > You think a VB7 will make Everybody happy? I don't. If there was a VB7
    > then there would be endless bickering over exactly what new features
    > should be added - many of them being in vb.net, things like threads and an
    > easy way to handle window's messages.
    >
    >
    > ---
    > Ice Z - Straight Outta Redmond




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    David A. Rothgery Guest

    Re: DOT NET Beta 2 .. anyone hear about it ???

    simon <substring0@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Well, Microsoft has to make up their mind first on whether VB.NET should be
    > compatible to the other .NET tools or compatible to VB6..... hmmm, that will
    > take a while, ha.
    >
    > IMHO, they should release a VB7 for the VB6 folks and keep the VB.NET
    > compatible to the .NET platform. Kind of like keeping Windows 9x and
    > Windows NT/2000 on a dual track, so everybody is happy. =)


    .... which was mind-bogglingly expensive, so they've been trying to kill
    off 9x with every release of NT starting with NT4. And with Windows XP,
    they're finally finishing the job.

    --
    Dave Rothgery
    Picking nits since 1976
    drothgery@myrealbox.com
    http://drothgery.editthispage.com

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    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: DOT NET Beta 2 .. anyone hear about it ???

    "Jason Thorn" <j_thorn@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >I think it's an attempt at a concession . . . Try and meet the opposition
    >halfway will ya?


    Opposition? :-)


    >I think a VB7 for the .fred crowd and a VB# for the .net crowd would be a
    >good idea. VB7 wouldn't make everyone happy, nothing will make everyone
    >happy for that matter.


    Right - so my question is: What's wrong with the .fred crowd just going
    ahead with VB6 for the next 5 years or so? I'm not sure I see a need for
    anything other than perhaps a service pack or two, if required.

    >a 'pure' version of VB ...


    I'm not sure you could get broad agreement on what Pure VB is.


    ---
    Ice Z - Straight Outta Redmond

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    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: DOT NET Beta 2 .. anyone hear about it ???

    On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:35:31 GMT, zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:

    >Right - so my question is: What's wrong with the .fred crowd just going
    >ahead with VB6 for the next 5 years or so? I'm not sure I see a need for
    >anything other than perhaps a service pack or two, if required.


    Because corporates will want to be assured that they are using a fully
    supported language. As long as they read on the Microsoft web site and
    elsewhere that VB.NET is the next version of Visual Basic, they can
    only infer one thing: that classic VB is being superseded. And
    therefore they won't want to commit any meaningful resource to
    continued development using a superseded product.

    Ergo, anyone currently developing in classic VB can either wither on
    the vine along with classic VB itself or learn VB.NET and accommodate
    the corporates or learn another language altogether on the premise
    that many corporates will decide it ain't worth a hill of beans
    sticking with BASIC of any kind.

    MM

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    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: DOT NET Beta 2 .. anyone hear about it ???

    On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:40:16 GMT, kylix_is@hotmail.com (Mike Mitchell)
    wrote:

    >Because corporates will want to be assured that they are using a fully
    >supported language.


    You use that synonmously with "upgraded". I see no reason why VB needs to
    be upgraded Forever as you seem to feel. If there are "corporates" out
    there who think that they can hide from evolving technology then they will
    be in for a rude awakening no matter which tool they choose. If you think
    Java or Kylix will be significant in 2020, and if you advise "corporates"
    that they will (doubtfull given your demonstrated lack of understanding of
    computer science basics), then you're doing them a disservice.

    Technology is going to continue changing - hopefully at a rapid pace - for
    a long time. Programming tools will be part of that change. You're
    either part of the change or you're headed for retirement - have fun
    drinking your bitters, watching football, and getting fat stupid and
    dying.




    ---
    Ice Z - Straight Outta Redmond

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