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  1. #1
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...

    On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:15:03 -0700, "Thomas J. Theobald \(Borland\)"
    <ttheobald@@borland.com> wrote:

    >...I'm on the lookout for case studies
    >of folks moving projects from VB to Delphi.


    How'd you like to have some sample projects which were moved from Delphi
    to .net?


    ---
    Ice Z - Straight Outta Redmond

  2. #2
    Thomas J. Theobald \(Borland\) Guest

    Looking for anecdotal projects...

    Pardon me for being so direct here, but I'm on the lookout for case studies
    of folks moving projects from VB to Delphi. If anyone in this forum should
    have such a case and would like to have it considered for a showcase app,
    please reply to me via eMail and I'll forward your info to the folks working
    out case studies. We're looking for the reasons Delphi was chosen as the
    solution, benefits of the choice, experiences of the switchover learning
    curve, etc. Please do let me know if you've got something you think would
    make a good case - we'd be particularly interested in high-profile or
    shrink-wrap applications, but I'd be happy to hear about all of them.

    Thanks -

    T


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  3. #3
    Patrick Steele Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...

    In article <3b1f05bd.77030078@news.devx.com> (from Zane Thomas
    <zane@mabry.com>),
    > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:15:03 -0700, "Thomas J. Theobald \(Borland\)"
    > <ttheobald@@borland.com> wrote:
    >
    > >...I'm on the lookout for case studies
    > >of folks moving projects from VB to Delphi.

    >
    > How'd you like to have some sample projects which were moved from Delphi
    > to .net?


    LOL!

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    Patrick Steele
    (psteele@ipdsolution.com)
    Lead Software Architect
    Image Process Design

  4. #4
    Jason Bock Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...

    "Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
    news:3b1f05bd.77030078@news.devx.com...
    > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:15:03 -0700, "Thomas J. Theobald \(Borland\)"
    > <ttheobald@@borland.com> wrote:
    >
    > >...I'm on the lookout for case studies
    > >of folks moving projects from VB to Delphi.

    >
    > How'd you like to have some sample projects which were moved from Delphi
    > to .net?


    You're assuming that there were still Delphi developers around when .Net was
    announced .

    Regards,

    Jason



  5. #5
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...

    Jason,

    >You're assuming that there were still Delphi developers around when .Net was
    >announced .


    Good point - I was assuming that Delphi has a few die-hard amateurs
    hanging on to the bitter end. Borland tools are, after all, the amateur's
    preference.


    ---
    Ice Z - Straight Outta Redmond

  6. #6
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...

    Patrick,

    >LOL!


    He asked for it - what a ****ing jerk.



    ---
    Ice Z - Straight Outta Redmond

  7. #7
    Robert Kozak Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...

    Do you have any? Or are you just trying to make some sort of statement?

    Robert Kozak (Borland)


    "Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
    news:3b1f05bd.77030078@news.devx.com...
    > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:15:03 -0700, "Thomas J. Theobald \(Borland\)"
    > <ttheobald@@borland.com> wrote:
    >
    > >...I'm on the lookout for case studies
    > >of folks moving projects from VB to Delphi.

    >
    > How'd you like to have some sample projects which were moved from Delphi
    > to .net?
    >
    >
    > ---
    > Ice Z - Straight Outta Redmond




  8. #8
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...

    On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 20:03:13 -0700, "Robert Kozak" <rkozak@borland.com>
    wrote:

    >Or are you just trying to make some sort of statement?
    >
    >Robert Kozak (Borland)


    ROFLMAO!!! Go back to wherever you came from.


    ---
    Ice Z - Straight Outta Redmond

  9. #9
    Miha Markic Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...

    Hey Zane,

    calm down. They won't eat you.

    --
    Miha
    www.spin.si

    > >Or are you just trying to make some sort of statement?
    > >
    > >Robert Kozak (Borland)

    >
    > ROFLMAO!!! Go back to wherever you came from.





  10. #10
    Miha Markic Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...

    Hi Thomas.

    I guess you should post this in some other newsgroup such as vb.general,
    since not many people has done project in VB.NET and even fewer moved them
    to Delphi.
    And even fewer people would buy Delphi 6 EE (look at the pricesssssss)

    --
    Miha
    www.spin.si
    "Thomas J. Theobald (Borland)" <ttheobald@@borland.com> wrote in message
    news:3b1804fd@news.devx.com...
    > Pardon me for being so direct here, but I'm on the lookout for case

    studies
    > of folks moving projects from VB to Delphi. If anyone in this forum

    should
    > have such a case and would like to have it considered for a showcase app,
    > please reply to me via eMail and I'll forward your info to the folks

    working
    > out case studies. We're looking for the reasons Delphi was chosen as the
    > solution, benefits of the choice, experiences of the switchover learning
    > curve, etc. Please do let me know if you've got something you think would
    > make a good case - we'd be particularly interested in high-profile or
    > shrink-wrap applications, but I'd be happy to hear about all of them.





  11. #11
    Kunle Odutola Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...


    "Thomas J. Theobald (Borland)" <ttheobald@@borland.com> wrote in message
    news:3b1804fd@news.devx.com...
    > Pardon me for being so direct here, but I'm on the lookout for case

    studies
    > of folks moving projects from VB to Delphi. If anyone in this forum

    should
    > have such a case and would like to have it considered for a showcase app,
    > please reply to me via eMail and I'll forward your info to the folks

    working
    > out case studies. We're looking for the reasons Delphi was chosen as the
    > solution, benefits of the choice, experiences of the switchover learning
    > curve, etc. Please do let me know if you've got something you think would
    > make a good case - we'd be particularly interested in high-profile or
    > shrink-wrap applications, but I'd be happy to hear about all of them.


    This is where pricing would help. Given D6's current pricing, their isn't
    much chance of this happening IMO. Delphi's technical benefits has been
    common knowledge for years...

    Kunle





  12. #12
    DickH Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...


    Zane,

    From Bruce Eckel's site. See the following for more information:

    http://www.mindview.net/Books/TICPP/...ngInCPP2e.html


    Win32 Compilers

    The code in this book is written to compile under a fully-compliant ISO C++
    (Standard C++) compiler. The best commercial C++ compiler available for Win32
    is the latest Borland C++ compiler (see http://www.inprise.com), which is
    what I used for testing the code under Win32. A command-line version is available
    as a free download. This compiler isn't fully compliant with all standard
    C++ features; you can find the files that it won't compile (which are excluded
    from the makefiles) in the file CompilerData.txt which comes with the distributions.
    However, the Borland compiler is far ahead of the competition in terms of
    language compliance, and they continue to improve it.


    A note about Visual C++. I periodically receive messages saying that the
    most recent version of Visual C++ will not compile many of the programs in
    the book. Let me attempt to be diplomatic here. Microsoft has stated that
    what they are creating is "a Windows compiler." Their interest is in creating
    a compiler that makes Windows programs, and not one that is compliant to
    the C++ Standard. As a result, the Standard C++ features in VC++ have been
    increasing at a relative crawl, and you should not expect VC++ to compile
    many of the programs in the book. The complete listing of files that will
    not compile can be found in the file CompilerData.txt in both volumes.


    Bruce is a real amateur? I think it would be generally undisputed he knows
    more about C++ than you. :-)

    DickH

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

    zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:
    >Jason,
    >
    >>You're assuming that there were still Delphi developers around when .Net

    was
    >>announced .

    >
    >Good point - I was assuming that Delphi has a few die-hard amateurs
    >hanging on to the bitter end. Borland tools are, after all, the amateur's
    >preference.
    >
    >
    >---
    >Ice Z - Straight Outta Redmond



  13. #13
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...

    "DickH" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote:

    >
    >Zane,
    >
    >From Bruce Eckel's site. See the following for more information:
    >
    >http://www.mindview.net/Books/TICPP/...ngInCPP2e.html
    >
    >
    >Win32 Compilers
    >
    >The code in this book is written to compile under a fully-compliant ISO C++
    >(Standard C++) compiler. The best commercial C++ compiler available for Win32
    >is the latest Borland C++ compiler ...


    Oh well, if it's written in a book then it must be true eh?

    I've never had a problem using vc++ to write code for Windows and so
    apparently any alleged points of non-compliance with iso c++ really don't
    matter.


    >This compiler isn't fully compliant with all standard C++ features


    And I guess borland's lack of compliance didn't bother your expert much
    either.


    >Bruce is a real amateur? I think it would be generally undisputed he knows
    >more about C++ than you. :-)


    What Bruce may or may not know has no bearing on the issue of who uses
    borland's programming tools.


    ---
    Ice Z - Straight Outta Redmond

  14. #14
    DickH Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...


    zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:

    >>Bruce is a real amateur? I think it would be generally undisputed he knows
    >>more about C++ than you. :-)

    >
    >What Bruce may or may not know has no bearing on the issue of who uses
    >borland's programming tools.



    No, you said, "Borland tools are, after all, the amateur's preference." Are
    you issuing a retraction?

    DickH


  15. #15
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: Looking for anecdotal projects...

    "DickH" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote:

    >
    >zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:
    >
    >>>Bruce is a real amateur? I think it would be generally undisputed he knows
    >>>more about C++ than you. :-)

    >>
    >>What Bruce may or may not know has no bearing on the issue of who uses
    >>borland's programming tools.

    >
    >
    >No, you said, "Borland tools are, after all, the amateur's preference." Are
    >you issuing a retraction?


    What does the H stand for, not Head I hope.

    I guess the first thing I need to clear up is that I was being a bit
    tongue-in-cheek in this thread, although you apparently missed that.

    However, I find it pathetic that borland shills would come over here
    trolling for supporters. And I think that making fun of them for it is
    appropriate.

    As to the "amateur's preference", I stand by that. I've followed
    borland's entire history. During the 80s and early 90s I even acquired
    and tried out their new products. This was because borland was out first
    with interesting new programming products - until VB1. However, I never
    found their tools to be suitable for the production work I was doing and
    always ended up waiting for MS's response, while continuing to use
    whatever tools I was using at the time. My opinion was, and is, that
    Borland has traditionally had a large following of programmers who I would
    view as ametuers. YMMV, go on back to the borland groups and get on with
    your own business eh?




    ---
    Ice Z - Straight Outta Redmond

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