edit and continue case and point

The other day I needed to use regular expressions. I didn't entirely
remember the regexp syntax nor the microsoft api. With just a few glances
at the documentation (reality check: most documentation sucks, focing you to
experiment even if you don't want to) for both I was able to whip together a
test form that exercised all the api and regexp syntax and showed the
results. This experimental learning cemented my knowledge and made it less
likely that I would err in real usage and has given me a small and useful
tool for future use. What has made it possible for me to distract myself
from actual work and concentrate on this little tool for 15 minutes? VB6
RAD, and specifically edit and continue. Nearly all the code was written
and corrected at runtime in response to my increasing awareness of the
runtime behavior of the regexp object. If you think I should have read
documentation exhaustively, then spent hours in deep though, then made a
UML design spec, then implemented the whole thing correctly the first time
as if on punchcards thus maybe even bypassing the debugger entirely or a
high level language, you have your head up your ***. You are a pedantic,
dogmatic, insipid buffoon. This logic, pursued consistently would lead to
abandonment of all productivity aides and result in perpetual planning
interrupted by extensive methodological debate, which would in time
overwhelm even the planning. vb.net makes it prohibitive to write such
little tools. There is no edit and continue, stopping and restarting the
debugger is significantly slower than vb6, recreating your state is a pain,
and here's the icing, what will vb.net debugger let you do if there is an
unhandled exception in the framework code:

a) correct your code and continue (VB6)
b) step over or out of your bad code (VB6 if you can't edit the file)
c) step over or out of framework code in disassembly window (C++)
d) kill your debugging session and start from scratch

Take a wild guess. With these obstacles there will be less experimetation a
nd learning of the new framework and more bugs.

[Kunle Odutola]

<*yawn response-to-troll=doNothing()*>

[Mike Mitchell]

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:25:43 -0000, "Kunle Odutola"
<kunle.odutola@<REMOVETHIS>okocha.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

><*yawn response-to-troll=doNothing()*>

No, that is not a response, nor it is a 'yawn'. Nor is it a troll.
What (s)he described was a perfectly reasonable point of view. But you
don't do perfectly reasonable when it comes to VB6 versus VB.NET, eh?
You haven't got any response you can think of without praising the
effectiveness of VB6 and sticking it to VB.NET. So instead you think
up a little fantasy and, lo, it shall be declared a troll!

What a pathetic get-out-of-jail-free card you played there!

MM

[Kunle Odutola]

"Mike Mitchell" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3c49c24c.2164317@news.devx.com...
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:25:43 -0000, "Kunle Odutola"
> <kunle.odutola@<REMOVETHIS>okocha.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> ><*yawn response-to-troll=doNothing()*>
>
> No, that is not a response, nor it is a 'yawn'. Nor is it a troll.
> What (s)he described was a perfectly reasonable point of view. But you
> don't do perfectly reasonable when it comes to VB6 versus VB.NET, eh?
> You haven't got any response you can think of without praising the
> effectiveness of VB6 and sticking it to VB.NET. So instead you think
> up a little fantasy and, lo, it shall be declared a troll!

You just reponsded to a post by me that covered E&C today. You do remember
right?

Kunle

[Phil Weber]

> What (s)he described was a perfectly reasonable point
> of view.

Mike: Then why is (s)he unwilling to sign his/her name to it?

People who write things like, "You have your head up your ***. You are a
pedantic,
dogmatic, insipid buffoon" without identifying themselves are trolls, plain
and simple.
---
Phil Weber

[Mike Mitchell]

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 20:50:23 -0800, "Phil Weber"
<pweberonline@fawcette.com> wrote:

>People who write things like, "You have your head up your ***. You are a
>pedantic,
>dogmatic, insipid buffoon" without identifying themselves are trolls, plain
>and simple.

Perhaps they don't want to suffer the schoolyard bullying that goes on
here. Me? I can take anything a bunch of pedantic, dogmatic, insipid
buffoons can throw at me. And then some!

MM

(Mind you, I'll stop short of saying they've all got their head up
their asses. I know when not to go over the top...)

[Michael Culley]

Phil,

Mr/Mrs Underscore is most definately a troll (maybe mike in a skirt -
shudder, unwanted visual image). But '_' does have a valid point, edit and
continue is a very big loss. But it is meant to be there is version 2 and
there are many other gains to .net.

--
Michael Culley
www.vbdotcom.com


"Phil Weber" <pweberonline@fawcette.com> wrote in message
news:3c4a3cf5$1@147.208.176.211...
> > What (s)he described was a perfectly reasonable point
> > of view.
>
> Mike: Then why is (s)he unwilling to sign his/her name to it?
>
> People who write things like, "You have your head up your ***. You are a
> pedantic,
> dogmatic, insipid buffoon" without identifying themselves are trolls,
plain
> and simple.
> ---
> Phil Weber
>
>