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  1. #1
    Karl E. Peterson Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1

    "Zane Thomas [.NET MVP]" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
    news:3d02a936.1416766250@news.devx.com...
    > On Thu, 07 Feb 2002 09:43:00 GMT, kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk (Mike Mitchell)
    > wrote:
    >
    > >>Uhm, ok, now remind me why you're so fond of a 25 year old language?
    > >>Don't you think it's time you progressed beyond using "basic kiddie"
    > >>tools? <g>

    > >
    > >How would you know?

    >
    > Well Mikee, I think the approximately 1000 pages I've published about VB
    > in books should answer that question.
    >
    > Also, you might like to ask Karl about my participation in the VB4 Beta -
    > when Karl and I were listed as the first two in an MS top-ten list of PITA
    > beta testers (or something like that, I always let Karl remember the
    > details, it makes him feel useful right Karl? <gd&r>). I've been around a
    > lot longer than you seem to be aware of.


    Ha! Yep, them were the days, alright. Y'all see that #6 in Dan's sig? Yeah, well,
    back in *those* days, I proudly claimed the #1 slot, Zane #2. **** yeah, it's useful
    to trot that out every half decade, or so! <bg>
    --
    [Microsoft Basic: 1976-2001, RIP]


  2. #2
    Dan Barclay Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1

    On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:27:42 -0800, "Karl E. Peterson" <karl@mvps.org>
    wrote:
    >> Also, you might like to ask Karl about my participation in the VB4 Beta -
    >> when Karl and I were listed as the first two in an MS top-ten list of PITA
    >> beta testers (or something like that, I always let Karl remember the
    >> details, it makes him feel useful right Karl? <gd&r>). I've been around a
    >> lot longer than you seem to be aware of.

    >
    >Ha! Yep, them were the days, alright. Y'all see that #6 in Dan's sig? Yeah, well,
    >back in *those* days, I proudly claimed the #1 slot, Zane #2. **** yeah, it's useful
    >to trot that out every half decade, or so! <bg>


    Yea, I honestly thought we'd made an impression then. Sadly,
    everything/body has changed at MS and it's a new crop of clueless
    kids.

    Dan

    Language Stability is a *feature* I wish VB had!
    (#6)

  3. #3
    Zane Thomas [.NET MVP] Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1

    On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 12:48:02 -0600, Dan Barclay <Dan@MVPs.org> wrote:

    >Yea, I honestly thought we'd made an impression then.


    A whole lot of the people from the VB4 beta are still at MS and still
    associated with languages, and with vb.net in particular. I've run across
    them at several events. As it turns out they just don't suare your view
    of what's best.

    >Sadly, everything/body has changed at MS ...


    Nope, see above. I can't recall the names of everyone who is still there
    - I have trouble with names - Rob Copeland, Chris Diaz, Drew <****! kicks
    self>, and several others. I run into them everywhere.

    >...and it's a new crop of clueless kids.


    Second childhood Dan? <g>


    --
    When freedom is outlawed
    only outlaws will be free.

  4. #4
    John Butler Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1


    "Karl E. Peterson" <karl@mvps.org> wrote in message
    news:3c633610$1@10.1.10.29...
    > "Zane Thomas [.NET MVP]" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
    > news:3d02a936.1416766250@news.devx.com...
    > Ha! Yep, them were the days, alright. Y'all see that #6 in Dan's sig?

    Yeah, well,
    > back in *those* days, I proudly claimed the #1 slot, Zane #2. **** yeah,

    it's useful
    > to trot that out every half decade, or so! <bg>


    Umm...for those of thus, ie. ME...that don't circle in the stratosphere (yet
    <grin>)....what do the numbers mean???

    #1...#6 what???

    eh???

    :-@

    If I need to bow down...I wanna know why ...and how far <grin>


    rgds
    John Butler






  5. #5
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1

    On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 23:07:16 -0000, "John Butler"
    <nospamjrbutler@btinternet.com> wrote:

    >Umm...for those of thus, ie. ME...that don't circle in the stratosphere (yet
    ><grin>)....what do the numbers mean???
    >
    >#1...#6 what???
    >
    >eh???
    >
    >:-@
    >
    >If I need to bow down...I wanna know why ...and how far <grin>


    I think it was how far they could bend over...

    MM

  6. #6
    Zane Thomas [.NET MVP] Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1

    On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 23:50:37 GMT, kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk (Mike Mitchell)
    wrote:

    >I think it was how far they could bend over...


    You're a moron Mike - but we already knew that. During the VB4 beta a
    list of the top 10 PITA beta testers leaked out from MS - Karl was #1 and
    I was #2 - Dan was way down the list, he just doesn't know how to craft a
    good flame.


    --
    When freedom is outlawed
    only outlaws will be free.

  7. #7
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1

    On Sat, 09 Feb 2002 00:02:13 GMT, zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas [.NET
    MVP]) wrote:

    >You're a moron Mike - but we already knew that. During the VB4 beta a
    >list of the top 10 PITA beta testers leaked out from MS - Karl was #1 and
    >I was #2 - Dan was way down the list, he just doesn't know how to craft a
    >good flame.


    "leaked out", eh! Ah, sounds like sheer incontinence to me!

    MM

  8. #8
    Dan Barclay Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1

    On Sat, 09 Feb 2002 00:02:13 GMT, zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas [.NET
    MVP]) wrote:

    >
    >You're a moron Mike - but we already knew that. During the VB4 beta a
    >list of the top 10 PITA beta testers leaked out from MS - Karl was #1 and
    >I was #2 - Dan was way down the list, he just doesn't know how to craft a
    >good flame.


    It was merely a lack of recognition. They don't have much of a clue
    on the guys behind the curtain <g>.

    I think I may have moved up on more recent lists.

    Dan

    Language Stability is a *feature* I wish VB had!
    (#6)

  9. #9
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1

    On Sat, 09 Feb 2002 17:37:40 -0600, Dan Barclay <Dan@MVPs.org> wrote:

    >I think I may have moved up on more recent lists.


    Ooh, sounds ominous! Watch out for the horse's head...!

    MM

  10. #10
    Karl E. Peterson Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1

    Hi Zane --

    > >I think it was how far they could bend over...

    >
    > You're a moron Mike - but we already knew that. During the VB4 beta a
    > list of the top 10 PITA beta testers leaked out from MS - Karl was #1 and
    > I was #2 - Dan was way down the list, he just doesn't know how to craft a
    > good flame.


    Dan just needs a good prod, every now and then. He responds rather nicely given the
    correct stimulus. <g>

    Later... Karl
    --
    [Microsoft Basic: 1976-2001, RIP]


  11. #11
    Rob Teixeira Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1



    Does this mean you won't use any language not programmed by people pushing
    retirement?
    Good luck

    -Rob

    Bob O`Bob <bob@cluestick.org> wrote:
    >>
    >> >...and it's a new crop of clueless kids.

    >
    >
    >"meet the new boss ..."
    >
    > Bob (won't be fooled again) O`Bob
    >--
    >posting from work, but representing only myself



  12. #12
    Bob O`Bob Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1

    Zane Thomas [.NET MVP] wrote:
    > On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 12:48:02 -0600, Dan Barclay <Dan@MVPs.org> wrote:
    >
    > >Yea, I honestly thought we'd made an impression then.

    >
    > A whole lot of the people from the VB4 beta are still at MS and still
    > associated with languages, and with vb.net in particular. I've run across
    > them at several events. As it turns out they just don't suare your view
    > of what's best.
    >
    > >Sadly, everything/body has changed at MS ...

    >
    > Nope, see above. I can't recall the names of everyone who is still there
    > - I have trouble with names - Rob Copeland, Chris Diaz, Drew <****! kicks
    > self>, and several others. I run into them everywhere.


    Fletcher.
    And both Chris and Drew were practically still mere babes-in-the-woods on
    the VB_5_ beta. Ask either of them sometime about the clipboard filled
    with beta feedback notes that "went missing"
    That was when VBITS was down near SFO.


    >
    > >...and it's a new crop of clueless kids.



    "meet the new boss ..."



    Bob (won't be fooled again) O`Bob
    --
    posting from work, but representing only myself

  13. #13
    Bob O`Bob Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1

    Rob Teixeira wrote:
    >
    > Does this mean you won't use any language not programmed by people pushing
    > retirement?



    Geez, look at the mess your headers are in.

    Are you using some kind of web interface, or did you
    fudge your system clock so you can pretend to answer faster?



    Bob
    --
    posting from work, but representing only myself

  14. #14
    Rob Teixeira Guest

    Re: Karl Peterson is #1


    Bob O`Bob <bob@cluestick.org> wrote:
    >
    >Geez, look at the mess your headers are in.


    Beats me. Ask Phil

    >Are you using some kind of web interface


    Today, yeah. This machine doesn't have a news browser.

    -Rob

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