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  1. #1
    Thomas Eyde Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#

    Isn't C# the internal development language at Microsoft? I also think it's
    used to develop .NET?

    That would be 2 good reasons.

    VB.NET is not similar to VB6. It's a completely new language. If you want to
    use the new OO features, VB6 knowledge gain you nothing. If not, stick with
    VB6.

    /Thomas

    "Michael Culley" <m_culley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:3ca9a2ad@10.1.10.29...
    > I'm trying to get our shop to move from vb.net to C#. So far we don't have
    > too much code so it should be easy. But I still have to convince those at
    > the top. Can anyone give me some good ammo? They keep saying that if they
    > are so similar why not just stick with VB.





  2. #2
    Jay Glynn Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#


    The 2 main reasons we looked at are:

    1. It is what Microsoft is using
    2. ECMA standardization

    The technical reasons all wash in the end so I wouldn't even bring it up.


    >I'm trying to get our shop to move from vb.net to C#. So far we don't have
    >too much code so it should be easy. But I still have to convince those at
    >the top. Can anyone give me some good ammo? They keep saying that if they
    >are so similar why not just stick with VB.





  3. #3
    Cali LaFollett Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#

    > I'm trying to get our shop to move from vb.net to C#. So far we don't have
    > too much code so it should be easy. But I still have to convince those at
    > the top. Can anyone give me some good ammo? They keep saying that if they
    > are so similar why not just stick with VB.


    Michael,

    Even though C# may be the language of choice by MS and standardized through
    ECMA, I personally believe that coding VB.NET through the VS.NET IDE is much
    more productive than coding in C#. Plus, even though the background
    compilation of VB.NET for code checking can be a performance hog at the
    moment, I like knowing immediately if I have a typo. Under C#, many of the
    typos are not caught until compile time.

    As Jay already mentioned, most of the technical reasons wash out in the end.
    Unless you are doing a lot of unsafe pointer manipulation or operator
    overloading, VB.NET and C# are pretty much equal.

    Regards,

    Cal



  4. #4
    Constance J. Petersen Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#

    Hi Michael,

    "Michael Culley" <m_culley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:3ca9a2ad@10.1.10.29...
    > I'm trying to get our shop to move from vb.net to C#. So far we don't have
    > too much code so it should be easy. But I still have to convince those at
    > the top. Can anyone give me some good ammo? They keep saying that if they
    > are so similar why not just stick with VB.


    You owe it to yourself to read Dan Appleman's e-book: "Visual Basic .NET or C#,
    Which to Choose?" You can download it as a PDF from Amazon.com for $9.95, and I
    think you'll find it well worth reading (very quick to read, well organized
    61-page book).

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005YX8N

    It will give you lots of facts for arguing your case if you still feel the same
    way after reading it. Or, after reading it, you might even change your mind.
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  5. #5
    Tom Bennet Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#


    How about giving the guy some sample code instead of begging him to stick
    with VB?

    There is a lot of sample code out there for you to examine. You could simply
    build two simple programs that display a form and show how similar the two
    are. I have provided examples like this to developers here, so they can
    see the differences between C#, VB.Net and Java. You may be surprised how
    very similar they all are.

    It's only my opinion, but I think you are wise for trying to convince your
    shop to go the C# route. I read an article on tech republic that said that
    Java programmers pay a lot more attention to coding standards and design
    patterns. The C style languages seem to be wining the "lexical war". If
    the goal of your organization is to attract and retain talent, then C# is
    a good choice. You may be able to attract some of those "out of work Java
    programmers" who need a bone thrown their way

    Tell me specifically what you need and I'll see what I can dig up.

    "Michael Culley" <m_culley@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >I'm trying to get our shop to move from vb.net to C#. So far we don't have
    >too much code so it should be easy. But I still have to convince those at
    >the top. Can anyone give me some good ammo? They keep saying that if they
    >are so similar why not just stick with VB.
    >
    >Thanks
    >
    >--
    >Michael Culley
    >www.vbdotcom.com
    >
    >
    >
    >



  6. #6
    Kevin Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#


    I have not found any conclusive reason why a shop would pick one over the
    other. I've heard the "MS uses C#" as a reason. MS uses C mostly, what else
    would they Choose? Duh. The choice should be mostly based on preference or
    staff experience.

    I agree with a previous response that says to get Applemans eBook on the
    subject.

    "Michael Culley" <m_culley@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >I'm trying to get our shop to move from vb.net to C#. So far we don't have
    >too much code so it should be easy. But I still have to convince those at
    >the top. Can anyone give me some good ammo? They keep saying that if they
    >are so similar why not just stick with VB.
    >
    >Thanks
    >
    >--
    >Michael Culley
    >www.vbdotcom.com
    >
    >
    >
    >



  7. #7
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#

    On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 22:41:07 +1000, "Michael Culley"
    <m_culley@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >I'm trying to get our shop to move from vb.net to C#. So far we don't have
    >too much code so it should be easy. But I still have to convince those at
    >the top. Can anyone give me some good ammo? They keep saying that if they
    >are so similar why not just stick with VB.


    Who told them at the top that they were similar?

    MM

  8. #8
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#

    On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 09:08:04 -0500, "Constance J. Petersen"
    <constance@smartisans.com> wrote:

    >You owe it to yourself to read Dan Appleman's e-book: "Visual Basic .NET or C#,
    >Which to Choose?" You can download it as a PDF from Amazon.com for $9.95, and I
    >think you'll find it well worth reading (very quick to read, well organized
    >61-page book).


    $9.95 for 61 pages! On that basis, standard-sized computer books of
    the printed and bound variety would cost over a hundred bucks or more
    a pop. $9.95 *AND* we have to download it *AND* print it! I do so hope
    web services won't be this expensive!

    MM

  9. #9
    Robert Lantry Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#

    Aren't you supposed to be off wrapping your febrile brain around Delphi or
    something?

    --

    -Robert

    Have a cow, man:
    http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow.html


    "Mike Mitchell" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:3ca9fef7.11908288@news.devx.com...
    > On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 22:41:07 +1000, "Michael Culley"
    > <m_culley@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > >I'm trying to get our shop to move from vb.net to C#. So far we don't

    have
    > >too much code so it should be easy. But I still have to convince those at
    > >the top. Can anyone give me some good ammo? They keep saying that if they
    > >are so similar why not just stick with VB.

    >
    > Who told them at the top that they were similar?
    >
    > MM




  10. #10
    Tim Overbay Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#

    Mike,

    When has anybody ever payed for a book per-page? Pull yer head out. Most
    people by books for the quality of the content, not the quantity. Sheesh!

    Tim

    "Mike Mitchell" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:3ca9ff68.12020512@news.devx.com...
    > On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 09:08:04 -0500, "Constance J. Petersen"
    > <constance@smartisans.com> wrote:
    >
    > >You owe it to yourself to read Dan Appleman's e-book: "Visual Basic .NET

    or C#,
    > >Which to Choose?" You can download it as a PDF from Amazon.com for $9.95,

    and I
    > >think you'll find it well worth reading (very quick to read, well

    organized
    > >61-page book).

    >
    > $9.95 for 61 pages! On that basis, standard-sized computer books of
    > the printed and bound variety would cost over a hundred bucks or more
    > a pop. $9.95 *AND* we have to download it *AND* print it! I do so hope
    > web services won't be this expensive!
    >
    > MM




  11. #11
    Constance J. Petersen Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#

    "Mike Mitchell" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:3ca9ff68.12020512@news.devx.com...
    > $9.95 for 61 pages! On that basis, standard-sized computer books of
    > the printed and bound variety would cost over a hundred bucks or more
    > a pop. $9.95 *AND* we have to download it *AND* print it! I do so hope
    > web services won't be this expensive!


    Sorry, can't quite hear you over the static from my twit filter.
    --
    Constance Petersen, DevX newsgroup section leader
    SoftMedia Artisans, Inc.
    http://www.smartisans.com
    For useful, usable software and Web sites
    Featured Web design: http://www.keweenawnow.com/
    --
    Please reply in the newsgroup so everyone can benefit




  12. #12
    Michael Culley Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#

    This kind of attitude is why we all have to wade through pages of bloat that
    authors have added to make their books look bigger on the shelf.

    --
    Michael Culley
    www.vbdotcom.com



    "Mike Mitchell" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:3ca9ff68.12020512@news.devx.com...
    > On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 09:08:04 -0500, "Constance J. Petersen"
    > <constance@smartisans.com> wrote:
    >
    > >You owe it to yourself to read Dan Appleman's e-book: "Visual Basic .NET

    or C#,
    > >Which to Choose?" You can download it as a PDF from Amazon.com for $9.95,

    and I
    > >think you'll find it well worth reading (very quick to read, well

    organized
    > >61-page book).

    >
    > $9.95 for 61 pages! On that basis, standard-sized computer books of
    > the printed and bound variety would cost over a hundred bucks or more
    > a pop. $9.95 *AND* we have to download it *AND* print it! I do so hope
    > web services won't be this expensive!
    >
    > MM




  13. #13
    Michael Culley Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#

    I guess we told them that, as an arguement of why it would be so easy to
    change over.

    --
    Michael Culley
    www.vbdotcom.com



    "Mike Mitchell" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:3ca9fef7.11908288@news.devx.com...
    > On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 22:41:07 +1000, "Michael Culley"
    > <m_culley@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > >I'm trying to get our shop to move from vb.net to C#. So far we don't

    have
    > >too much code so it should be easy. But I still have to convince those at
    > >the top. Can anyone give me some good ammo? They keep saying that if they
    > >are so similar why not just stick with VB.

    >
    > Who told them at the top that they were similar?
    >
    > MM




  14. #14
    Michael Culley Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#

    > Have a cow, man:
    > http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow.html


    Just curious, why would a website have a html directory, isn't it all html?


    --
    Michael Culley
    www.vbdotcom.com



    "Robert Lantry" <mirth@mirthy.com> wrote in message
    news:3caa0306$1@10.1.10.29...
    > Aren't you supposed to be off wrapping your febrile brain around Delphi or
    > something?
    >
    > --
    >
    > -Robert
    >
    > Have a cow, man:
    > http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow.html
    >
    >
    > "Mike Mitchell" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:3ca9fef7.11908288@news.devx.com...
    > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 22:41:07 +1000, "Michael Culley"
    > > <m_culley@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > >I'm trying to get our shop to move from vb.net to C#. So far we don't

    > have
    > > >too much code so it should be easy. But I still have to convince those

    at
    > > >the top. Can anyone give me some good ammo? They keep saying that if

    they
    > > >are so similar why not just stick with VB.

    > >
    > > Who told them at the top that they were similar?
    > >
    > > MM

    >
    >




  15. #15
    Mattias Sjögren Guest

    Re: From VB.net to C#

    >You owe it to yourself to read Dan Appleman's e-book: "Visual Basic .NET or C#,
    >Which to Choose?" You can download it as a PDF from Amazon.com for $9.95, and I
    >think you'll find it well worth reading (very quick to read, well organized
    >61-page book).


    Also surprisingly incomplete (for being an Appleman book). I was
    pretty disappointed after reading it.


    Mattias

    ===
    Mattias Sjögren (VB MVP)
    mattias @ mvps.org
    http://www.msjogren.net/dotnet/

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