Is there ANY other ide for visual studio .NET?

[Aaron Sevivas]

Has anyone heard of any FREEWARE ide for visual studio .NET? Basically, as
long as you have IntelliSense statement completion and be able to script
compilation, I think the ide would do extremely well. let me make it clear
that I am not suggesting in any way that the ide would be able to compete
with the MS .NET ide. NO WAY! MS makes the best ides hands down, even their
J++ ide won java awards over Sun's own Forte and Borland's JBuilder a couple
years back. I just mean, if you just want a small footprint ide to do some
small programs, a tiny (4mb) download browser with syntax coloring (maybe
just one language supported, like VB or C#) and intellisense would be awesome
(no GUI building). It seems like this is a niche that hasn't been filled..
or has it?

~aaron

[Miha Markic]

Hi Aaron,

You mean IDE for :NET framework I guess (Visual Studio.Net is actually an
IDE).
Check this one:
http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/default.asp

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Miha
www.spin.si/www/eng/

"Aaron Sevivas" <aaronsevivas@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Has anyone heard of any FREEWARE ide for visual studio .NET? Basically,
as
> long as you have IntelliSense statement completion and be able to script
> compilation, I think the ide would do extremely well. let me make it
clear
> that I am not suggesting in any way that the ide would be able to compete
> with the MS .NET ide. NO WAY! MS makes the best ides hands down, even
their
> J++ ide won java awards over Sun's own Forte and Borland's JBuilder a
couple
> years back. I just mean, if you just want a small footprint ide to do
some
> small programs, a tiny (4mb) download browser with syntax coloring (maybe
> just one language supported, like VB or C#) and intellisense would be
awesome
> (no GUI building). It seems like this is a niche that hasn't been
filled..
> or has it?
>
> ~aaron

[Aaron Sevivas]

"Miha Markic" <miham@spam=no.spin.com> wrote:
>Hi Aaron,
>
>You mean IDE for :NET framework I guess (Visual Studio.Net is actually an
>IDE).

Of course, brain fart.. I meant "Is there ANY other ide BESIDES visual studio
.NET?"

>Check this one:
>http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/default.asp

Im downloading it now. It seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. The
specific feature I'm looking for is code complete.. The reason I want this
is because, at work I use Java and cannot justify putting a 2 gig .NET platform
install on my customers computer. We have a few days of "down" time here,
so I need to keep myself busy..

thanks!~aaron

>
>--
>Miha
>www.spin.si/www/eng/
>
>"Aaron Sevivas" <aaronsevivas@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3cf35c45$1@10.1.10.29...
>>
>> Has anyone heard of any FREEWARE ide for visual studio .NET? Basically,
>as
>> long as you have IntelliSense statement completion and be able to script
>> compilation, I think the ide would do extremely well. let me make it
>clear
>> that I am not suggesting in any way that the ide would be able to compete
>> with the MS .NET ide. NO WAY! MS makes the best ides hands down, even
>their
>> J++ ide won java awards over Sun's own Forte and Borland's JBuilder a
>couple
>> years back. I just mean, if you just want a small footprint ide to do
>some
>> small programs, a tiny (4mb) download browser with syntax coloring (maybe
>> just one language supported, like VB or C#) and intellisense would be
>awesome
>> (no GUI building). It seems like this is a niche that hasn't been
>filled..
>> or has it?
>>
>> ~aaron
>
>

[Tom Bennet]

Aaron,

If you just want a great editor, JEdit is among the best. It understands
VB and C# syntax. Kunle also made me aware of Sharp Develop an open source
attempt at a .Net IDE. It looks promising, but has a long way to go. Needless
to say that there are attempts at making an IDE, but nothing commercial from
what I can tell.

Tom

http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/default.asp
http://www.jedit.org

"Aaron Sevivas" <aaronsevivas@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Has anyone heard of any FREEWARE ide for visual studio .NET? Basically,
as
>long as you have IntelliSense statement completion and be able to script
>compilation, I think the ide would do extremely well. let me make it clear
>that I am not suggesting in any way that the ide would be able to compete
>with the MS .NET ide. NO WAY! MS makes the best ides hands down, even
their
>J++ ide won java awards over Sun's own Forte and Borland's JBuilder a couple
>years back. I just mean, if you just want a small footprint ide to do some
>small programs, a tiny (4mb) download browser with syntax coloring (maybe
>just one language supported, like VB or C#) and intellisense would be awesome
>(no GUI building). It seems like this is a niche that hasn't been filled..
>or has it?
>
>~aaron

[Aaron Sevivas]

"Tom Bennet" <fdsfds@fdsfds.com> wrote:
>If you just want a great editor, JEdit is among the best. It understands
>VB and C# syntax.

I'm going to download it to try it out. I just scooted over to the site
and it looks good.

>Kunle also made me aware of Sharp Develop an open source
>attempt at a .Net IDE. It looks promising, but has a long way to go. Needless
>to say that there are attempts at making an IDE, but nothing commercial
from
>what I can tell.

I just installed the ide from Sharp Develop and it looks good. It does have
code complete and syntax highlighting which was my only requirement.

>
>Tom
>
>http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/default.asp
>http://www.jedit.org

Thanks for the tips Tom!

~aaron

[Tom Bennet]

Glad I could help.

JEdit is a nice editor(the hypersearch is great), but you won't find code
complete for anything other than Java and that support is via plugin.

Maybe someone will write a plugin for C# and VB.Net.

Tom

"Aaron Sevivas" <aaronsevivas@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Tom Bennet" <fdsfds@fdsfds.com> wrote:
>>If you just want a great editor, JEdit is among the best. It understands
>>VB and C# syntax.
>
>I'm going to download it to try it out. I just scooted over to the site
>and it looks good.
>
>>Kunle also made me aware of Sharp Develop an open source
>>attempt at a .Net IDE. It looks promising, but has a long way to go.
Needless
>>to say that there are attempts at making an IDE, but nothing commercial
>from
>>what I can tell.
>
>I just installed the ide from Sharp Develop and it looks good. It does
have
>code complete and syntax highlighting which was my only requirement.
>
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/default.asp
>>http://www.jedit.org
>
>Thanks for the tips Tom!
>
>~aaron

[Richard Curzon]

Me too, I work sometime in an environment without the IDE.

What I use is a combination of SciTE (www.scintalla.org) and Lutz Roeders
Reflector instead of code completion (aka intellisense)... makes a
lightweight IDE alternative. For debugging, IMO the GUI dbgclr.exe tool
from the SDK has almost all the features of the IDE. And doesn't have some
of the most annoying bugs of the IDE debugger!

To use Reflector, you lose some of the speed of intellisense... but make up
for that with quality. A very complete library browser, including hooks to
the MDSN docs, display inherited members, and IL disassembly. Has
similarities to ILDASM, but prettier and more generally useful.

With SciTE, you get the most attractive and useful syntax highlighting in
the business IMO... plus it captures compiler output, cycles to the source
lines for errors with a keystroke.

But you need to spend a half hour or so reading on how to customize it (to
show tabbed buffers, to drive nmake and your other tools). If you don't
already know how to use nmake, that's a small learning curve too. But
really, you should know how to use nmake even in 2002.

Working this way, you get the feeling that this is the way dotnet was meant
to be coded... at least as a baseline. You see what the VS IDE hides... and
whether you like it hidden or not <g>.

Even where I have Vis Studio installed, I set up SciTE as a menu Tool for
when I want to see better syntax highlighting. There's a trick to get it to
go to the current source code line, but not that hard to figure. And
VStudio recognizes the file is changed when you close SciTE.

regards
Richard


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