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  1. #1
    Aaron Sevivas Guest

    Is there ANY other ide for visual studio .NET?


    Has anyone heard of any FREEWARE ide for visual studio .NET? Basically, as
    long as you have IntelliSense statement completion and be able to script
    compilation, I think the ide would do extremely well. let me make it clear
    that I am not suggesting in any way that the ide would be able to compete
    with the MS .NET ide. NO WAY! MS makes the best ides hands down, even their
    J++ ide won java awards over Sun's own Forte and Borland's JBuilder a couple
    years back. I just mean, if you just want a small footprint ide to do some
    small programs, a tiny (4mb) download browser with syntax coloring (maybe
    just one language supported, like VB or C#) and intellisense would be awesome
    (no GUI building). It seems like this is a niche that hasn't been filled..
    or has it?

    ~aaron

  2. #2
    Miha Markic Guest

    Re: Is there ANY other ide for visual studio .NET?

    Hi Aaron,

    You mean IDE for :NET framework I guess (Visual Studio.Net is actually an
    IDE).
    Check this one:
    http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/default.asp

    --
    Miha
    www.spin.si/www/eng/

    "Aaron Sevivas" <aaronsevivas@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:3cf35c45$1@10.1.10.29...
    >
    > Has anyone heard of any FREEWARE ide for visual studio .NET? Basically,

    as
    > long as you have IntelliSense statement completion and be able to script
    > compilation, I think the ide would do extremely well. let me make it

    clear
    > that I am not suggesting in any way that the ide would be able to compete
    > with the MS .NET ide. NO WAY! MS makes the best ides hands down, even

    their
    > J++ ide won java awards over Sun's own Forte and Borland's JBuilder a

    couple
    > years back. I just mean, if you just want a small footprint ide to do

    some
    > small programs, a tiny (4mb) download browser with syntax coloring (maybe
    > just one language supported, like VB or C#) and intellisense would be

    awesome
    > (no GUI building). It seems like this is a niche that hasn't been

    filled..
    > or has it?
    >
    > ~aaron




  3. #3
    Aaron Sevivas Guest

    Re: Is there ANY other ide for visual studio .NET?


    "Miha Markic" <miham@spam=no.spin.com> wrote:
    >Hi Aaron,
    >
    >You mean IDE for :NET framework I guess (Visual Studio.Net is actually an
    >IDE).


    Of course, brain fart.. I meant "Is there ANY other ide BESIDES visual studio
    .NET?"

    >Check this one:
    >http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/default.asp


    Im downloading it now. It seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. The
    specific feature I'm looking for is code complete.. The reason I want this
    is because, at work I use Java and cannot justify putting a 2 gig .NET platform
    install on my customers computer. We have a few days of "down" time here,
    so I need to keep myself busy..

    thanks!~aaron

    >
    >--
    >Miha
    >www.spin.si/www/eng/
    >
    >"Aaron Sevivas" <aaronsevivas@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >news:3cf35c45$1@10.1.10.29...
    >>
    >> Has anyone heard of any FREEWARE ide for visual studio .NET? Basically,

    >as
    >> long as you have IntelliSense statement completion and be able to script
    >> compilation, I think the ide would do extremely well. let me make it

    >clear
    >> that I am not suggesting in any way that the ide would be able to compete
    >> with the MS .NET ide. NO WAY! MS makes the best ides hands down, even

    >their
    >> J++ ide won java awards over Sun's own Forte and Borland's JBuilder a

    >couple
    >> years back. I just mean, if you just want a small footprint ide to do

    >some
    >> small programs, a tiny (4mb) download browser with syntax coloring (maybe
    >> just one language supported, like VB or C#) and intellisense would be

    >awesome
    >> (no GUI building). It seems like this is a niche that hasn't been

    >filled..
    >> or has it?
    >>
    >> ~aaron

    >
    >



  4. #4
    Tom Bennet Guest

    Re: Is there ANY other ide for visual studio .NET?


    Aaron,

    If you just want a great editor, JEdit is among the best. It understands
    VB and C# syntax. Kunle also made me aware of Sharp Develop an open source
    attempt at a .Net IDE. It looks promising, but has a long way to go. Needless
    to say that there are attempts at making an IDE, but nothing commercial from
    what I can tell.

    Tom

    http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/default.asp
    http://www.jedit.org

    "Aaron Sevivas" <aaronsevivas@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >Has anyone heard of any FREEWARE ide for visual studio .NET? Basically,

    as
    >long as you have IntelliSense statement completion and be able to script
    >compilation, I think the ide would do extremely well. let me make it clear
    >that I am not suggesting in any way that the ide would be able to compete
    >with the MS .NET ide. NO WAY! MS makes the best ides hands down, even

    their
    >J++ ide won java awards over Sun's own Forte and Borland's JBuilder a couple
    >years back. I just mean, if you just want a small footprint ide to do some
    >small programs, a tiny (4mb) download browser with syntax coloring (maybe
    >just one language supported, like VB or C#) and intellisense would be awesome
    >(no GUI building). It seems like this is a niche that hasn't been filled..
    >or has it?
    >
    >~aaron



  5. #5
    Aaron Sevivas Guest

    Re: Is there ANY other ide for visual studio .NET?


    "Tom Bennet" <fdsfds@fdsfds.com> wrote:
    >If you just want a great editor, JEdit is among the best. It understands
    >VB and C# syntax.


    I'm going to download it to try it out. I just scooted over to the site
    and it looks good.

    >Kunle also made me aware of Sharp Develop an open source
    >attempt at a .Net IDE. It looks promising, but has a long way to go. Needless
    >to say that there are attempts at making an IDE, but nothing commercial

    from
    >what I can tell.


    I just installed the ide from Sharp Develop and it looks good. It does have
    code complete and syntax highlighting which was my only requirement.

    >
    >Tom
    >
    >http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/default.asp
    >http://www.jedit.org


    Thanks for the tips Tom!

    ~aaron

  6. #6
    Tom Bennet Guest

    Re: Is there ANY other ide for visual studio .NET?


    Glad I could help.

    JEdit is a nice editor(the hypersearch is great), but you won't find code
    complete for anything other than Java and that support is via plugin.

    Maybe someone will write a plugin for C# and VB.Net.

    Tom

    "Aaron Sevivas" <aaronsevivas@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >"Tom Bennet" <fdsfds@fdsfds.com> wrote:
    >>If you just want a great editor, JEdit is among the best. It understands
    >>VB and C# syntax.

    >
    >I'm going to download it to try it out. I just scooted over to the site
    >and it looks good.
    >
    >>Kunle also made me aware of Sharp Develop an open source
    >>attempt at a .Net IDE. It looks promising, but has a long way to go.

    Needless
    >>to say that there are attempts at making an IDE, but nothing commercial

    >from
    >>what I can tell.

    >
    >I just installed the ide from Sharp Develop and it looks good. It does

    have
    >code complete and syntax highlighting which was my only requirement.
    >
    >>
    >>Tom
    >>
    >>http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/default.asp
    >>http://www.jedit.org

    >
    >Thanks for the tips Tom!
    >
    >~aaron



  7. #7
    Richard Curzon Guest

    Re: Is there ANY other ide for visual studio .NET?

    Me too, I work sometime in an environment without the IDE.

    What I use is a combination of SciTE (www.scintalla.org) and Lutz Roeders
    Reflector instead of code completion (aka intellisense)... makes a
    lightweight IDE alternative. For debugging, IMO the GUI dbgclr.exe tool
    from the SDK has almost all the features of the IDE. And doesn't have some
    of the most annoying bugs of the IDE debugger!

    To use Reflector, you lose some of the speed of intellisense... but make up
    for that with quality. A very complete library browser, including hooks to
    the MDSN docs, display inherited members, and IL disassembly. Has
    similarities to ILDASM, but prettier and more generally useful.

    With SciTE, you get the most attractive and useful syntax highlighting in
    the business IMO... plus it captures compiler output, cycles to the source
    lines for errors with a keystroke.

    But you need to spend a half hour or so reading on how to customize it (to
    show tabbed buffers, to drive nmake and your other tools). If you don't
    already know how to use nmake, that's a small learning curve too. But
    really, you should know how to use nmake even in 2002.

    Working this way, you get the feeling that this is the way dotnet was meant
    to be coded... at least as a baseline. You see what the VS IDE hides... and
    whether you like it hidden or not <g>.

    Even where I have Vis Studio installed, I set up SciTE as a menu Tool for
    when I want to see better syntax highlighting. There's a trick to get it to
    go to the current source code line, but not that hard to figure. And
    VStudio recognizes the file is changed when you close SciTE.

    regards
    Richard


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