Developer Express tools - Wot no real demo?

[iGadget]

I'm looking for a powerful tree control for my new questionnaire
application, and the best I have seen so far appears to be the Developer
Express toolset, but they don't release an IDE version for testing!
It seems incredible that a company expects people to invest hundreds of
dollars in a product they can't test in-situ.
Somehow, a precompiled demo application is not quite what I expect for a
development tool.
Does anyone have much experience of this product?

Cheers,
iGadget

[Mike Mitchell]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:05:09 +1000, "iGadget" <iGadget_@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I'm looking for a powerful tree control for my new questionnaire
>application, and the best I have seen so far appears to be the Developer
>Express toolset, but they don't release an IDE version for testing!
>It seems incredible that a company expects people to invest hundreds of
>dollars in a product they can't test in-situ.
>Somehow, a precompiled demo application is not quite what I expect for a
>development tool.
>Does anyone have much experience of this product?

iGadget, what is wrong with the Windows-supplied TreeView control?

MM

[iGadget]

"Mike Mitchell" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:05:09 +1000, "iGadget" <iGadget_@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm looking for a powerful tree control for my new questionnaire
> >application, and the best I have seen so far appears to be the Developer
> >Express toolset, but they don't release an IDE version for testing!
> >It seems incredible that a company expects people to invest hundreds of
> >dollars in a product they can't test in-situ.
> >Somehow, a precompiled demo application is not quite what I expect for a
> >development tool.
> >Does anyone have much experience of this product?
>
> iGadget, what is wrong with the Windows-supplied TreeView control?

I need to do lots of modification to the visual display of the tree, adding
bracketing of sections of trees and custom images to individual nodes.
I know I could subclass the control and add all this functionality
eventually, but the DevExp control already has all of this functionality
implemented and has a nice set of optional input controls for numbers,
dates, memos etc. so I'd rather not reinherit the wheel (is this a new
saying?)

Cheers,
iGadget

[Miha Markic]

LOL

"Mike Mitchell" <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:05:09 +1000, "iGadget" <iGadget_@hotmail.com>
> wrote:

> iGadget, what is wrong with the Windows-supplied TreeView control?

[Miha Markic]

Hi,

Developer Express (I am not an employee) offers 60 days unconditional money
back guarantee instead so you can test and return the product if you like.

--
Miha Markic - DXSquad
www.dxsquad.com, www.spin.si/www/eng

"iGadget" <iGadget_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm looking for a powerful tree control for my new questionnaire
> application, and the best I have seen so far appears to be the Developer
> Express toolset, but they don't release an IDE version for testing!
> It seems incredible that a company expects people to invest hundreds of
> dollars in a product they can't test in-situ.
> Somehow, a precompiled demo application is not quite what I expect for a
> development tool.
> Does anyone have much experience of this product?
>
> Cheers,
> iGadget
>
>

[iGadget]

OK, thanks.
Do they offer a Component Suite for all their .NET products or anything like
that? I can't see anything on their website, and I would like to buy all of
them

Cheers,
iGadget

"Miha Markic" <miham@pleasenospam.spin.si> wrote in message
news:3db3aaae@tnews.web.devx.com...
> Hi,
>
> Developer Express (I am not an employee) offers 60 days unconditional
money
> back guarantee instead so you can test and return the product if you like.
>
> --
> Miha Markic - DXSquad
> www.dxsquad.com, www.spin.si/www/eng
>
> "iGadget" <iGadget_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3db22929$1@tnews.web.devx.com...
> > I'm looking for a powerful tree control for my new questionnaire
> > application, and the best I have seen so far appears to be the Developer
> > Express toolset, but they don't release an IDE version for testing!
> > It seems incredible that a company expects people to invest hundreds of
> > dollars in a product they can't test in-situ.
> > Somehow, a precompiled demo application is not quite what I expect for a
> > development tool.
> > Does anyone have much experience of this product?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > iGadget
> >
> >
>
>

[Miha Markic]

Sure, check under subscriptions...
http://www.devexpress.com/products/subscriptions.asp

Miha

"iGadget" <iGadget_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> OK, thanks.
> Do they offer a Component Suite for all their .NET products or anything
like
> that? I can't see anything on their website, and I would like to buy all
of
> them

[iGadget]

Ah, drat.
I was looking under the pricing section... :/

Thanks,
iGadget

"Miha Markic" <miham@pleasenospam.spin.si> wrote in message
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> Sure, check under subscriptions...
> http://www.devexpress.com/products/subscriptions.asp
>
> Miha
>
> "iGadget" <iGadget_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3db3abed@tnews.web.devx.com...
> > OK, thanks.
> > Do they offer a Component Suite for all their .NET products or anything
> like
> > that? I can't see anything on their website, and I would like to buy
all
> of
> > them
>
>

[Miha Markic]

> Ah, drat.



Miha

[Tim Hitchings \(Infragistics\)]

iGadget wrote:
> I'm looking for a powerful tree control for my new questionnaire
> application, and the best I have seen so far appears to be the
> Developer Express toolset, but they don't release an IDE version for
> testing! It seems incredible that a company expects people to invest
> hundreds of dollars in a product they can't test in-situ.
> Somehow, a precompiled demo application is not quite what I expect
> for a development tool.

I suggest you also look at the Infragistics NetAdvantage suite.
http://www.infragistics.com
It has a tree control for win forms as well as a tree for ASP.NET.

[iGadget]

"Tim Hitchings (Infragistics)" <productmanager@infragistics.com> wrote in
message news:3db3f19a$1@tnews.web.devx.com...
> iGadget wrote:
> > I'm looking for a powerful tree control for my new questionnaire
> > application, and the best I have seen so far appears to be the
> > Developer Express toolset, but they don't release an IDE version for
> > testing! It seems incredible that a company expects people to invest
> > hundreds of dollars in a product they can't test in-situ.
> > Somehow, a precompiled demo application is not quite what I expect
> > for a development tool.
>
> I suggest you also look at the Infragistics NetAdvantage suite.
> http://www.infragistics.com
> It has a tree control for win forms as well as a tree for ASP.NET.

Thanks, I did indeed look at that one, but my requirements are for something
that is heavily (and easily) visually customisable, and there is no mention
of any event handling for that purpose. I will download a trial copy though,
and check it out anyway.

Thanks,
iGadget

[Tim Hitchings \(Infragistics\)]

iGadget wrote:
>> I suggest you also look at the Infragistics NetAdvantage Suite.
>> http://www.infragistics.com
>> It has a tree control for win forms as well as a tree for ASP.NET.
>
> Thanks, I did indeed look at that one, but my requirements are for
> something that is heavily (and easily) visually customisable, and
> there is no mention of any event handling for that purpose. I will
> download a trial copy though, and check it out anyway.

Please do check out the full working trial as you can modify the appearance
quite heavily.
See this page:
http://www.infragistics.com/products...informsplf.asp
and this
http://www.infragistics.com/corporat...etwinforms.asp
for details on what you can do with all of our winforms products.

Try our peer-to-peer newsgroups
http://www.infragistics.com/support/newsgroups.asp
And use our support
http://www.infragistics.com/support/supportcenter.asp
if you have futher questions

I'd also like to suggest that you compare our price of the NetAdvantage
Suite with subscription which includes source.

[iGadget]

Ah-ha - I didn't find that page of info.
I'll look into this further.

Many thanks,
iGadget

"Tim Hitchings (Infragistics)" <productmanager@infragistics.com> wrote in
message news:3db403ba$1@tnews.web.devx.com...
> iGadget wrote:
> >> I suggest you also look at the Infragistics NetAdvantage Suite.
> >> http://www.infragistics.com
> >> It has a tree control for win forms as well as a tree for ASP.NET.
> >
> > Thanks, I did indeed look at that one, but my requirements are for
> > something that is heavily (and easily) visually customisable, and
> > there is no mention of any event handling for that purpose. I will
> > download a trial copy though, and check it out anyway.
>
> Please do check out the full working trial as you can modify the
appearance
> quite heavily.
> See this page:
> http://www.infragistics.com/products...informsplf.asp
> and this
> http://www.infragistics.com/corporat...etwinforms.asp
> for details on what you can do with all of our winforms products.
>
> Try our peer-to-peer newsgroups
> http://www.infragistics.com/support/newsgroups.asp
> And use our support
> http://www.infragistics.com/support/supportcenter.asp
> if you have futher questions
>
> I'd also like to suggest that you compare our price of the NetAdvantage
> Suite with subscription which includes source.
>
>

[John Butler]

"iGadget" <iGadget_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I need to do lots of modification to the visual display of the tree,
adding
> bracketing of sections of trees and custom images to individual nodes.
> I know I could subclass the control and add all this functionality
> eventually, but the DevExp control already has all of this functionality
> implemented and has a nice set of optional input controls for numbers,
> dates, memos etc. so I'd rather not reinherit the wheel (is this a new
> saying?)
>
> Cheers,
> iGadget

Mike is trolling for reasons to lambast vb.net...he's not genuinely
concerned about your problem. Are you Mike????

rgds
John Butler

[John Butler]

"Miha Markic" <miham@pleasenospam.spin.si> wrote in message
news:3db3aaae@tnews.web.devx.com...
> Hi,
>
> Developer Express (I am not an employee) offers 60 days unconditional
money
> back guarantee instead so you can test and return the product if you like.
>
> --
> Miha Markic - DXSquad
> www.dxsquad.com, www.spin.si/www/eng


Not good enough...I would also like to demo something rather than buy and
return it for a refund.... I know it is more schlepp to do a demo...but with
DemoShield or something...it's not that hard! Experience has shown me once
someone has my money, it's harder to get it back than to simply un-install a
demo....even if it is the banks that mess up the transaction or whatever.
I'm sure they're very good and all that...but a foreign credit card
transaction could be messed up in many ways.

Their compenents look interesting...but their ASP.NET stuff isn't there yet
either, and no demo...so I've stayed away. Others probably have too...

rgds
John Butler