Poll Results

[Dan Barclay]

Interesting results.

>Which language will you choose for coding with the release of Visual
>Studio .NET this week?
>
>6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET
>435 (6%) Visual Basic .NET

Is there a clue here? Given the number of C and VB developers, is
this really what they expected?

>http://www.devx.com/free/votearchives.asp

Did anyone take a poll at VSLive? I'll bet those would be every bit
as representative of the general developer population, eh?.

Dan
Language Stability is a *feature* I wish VB had!
(#6)

[Zane Thomas]

Should Microsoft have provided out-of-the-box compatibility with VB6 in
Visual Studio .NET?

434 (37%) No. VB6 was outdated. It's time to advance.
399 (34%) Of course. Why do I have to recode all my VB apps?
217 (18%) No. But the upgrade Wizard should work seamlessly.
137 (12%) Avoid the whole problem. Use C#.
Total Votes: 1187


Which language will you choose for coding with the release of Visual
Studio .NET this week?

6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET
435 (6%) Visual Basic .NET
198 (3%) I don't care about any .NET language.
103 (1%) Visual C++ .NET
22 (0%) Other (Perl, Python, Eiffel, Smalltalk, etc.)
Total Votes: 7321

http://www.devx.com/free/votearchives.asp

Enjoy! :-)


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[Cali LaFollett]

> http://www.devx.com/free/votearchives.asp
>
> Enjoy! :-)

Hey, don't shove that stick to far in the hornets nest! ;-)

[Robert Lantry]

"Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
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>
> Enjoy! :-)
>

You're just plain evil, Zane. In a good way, of course. Like an evil
petting zoo.

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-Robert
One million dollars! - Bwahahahaha!

[Ray Collins]

[Microsoft Basic: 1976-2001, RIP]

Who said that ?
;-)
Classic Coke anyone ?
"Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Should Microsoft have provided out-of-the-box compatibility with VB6 in
> Visual Studio .NET?
>
> 434 (37%) No. VB6 was outdated. It's time to advance.
> 399 (34%) Of course. Why do I have to recode all my VB apps?
> 217 (18%) No. But the upgrade Wizard should work seamlessly.
> 137 (12%) Avoid the whole problem. Use C#.
> Total Votes: 1187
>
>
> Which language will you choose for coding with the release of Visual
> Studio .NET this week?
>
> 6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET
> 435 (6%) Visual Basic .NET
> 198 (3%) I don't care about any .NET language.
> 103 (1%) Visual C++ .NET
> 22 (0%) Other (Perl, Python, Eiffel, Smalltalk, etc.)
> Total Votes: 7321
>
> http://www.devx.com/free/votearchives.asp
>
> Enjoy! :-)
>
>
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[Patrick Troughton]

"Karl E. Peterson" <karl@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>Couldn't have been more damning had it been rigged.
>

Those **** beta 2 rollbacks.....

/Pat

[Karl E. Peterson]

"Dan Barclay" <Dan@MVPs.org> wrote in message
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> Interesting results.
>
> >Which language will you choose for coding with the release of Visual
> >Studio .NET this week?
> >
> >6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET
> >435 (6%) Visual Basic .NET
>
> Is there a clue here? Given the number of C and VB developers, is
> this really what they expected?

Couldn't have been more damning had it been rigged.

Later... Karl
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[Paul Mc]

"Patrick Troughton" <Patrick@Troughton.com> wrote:
>
>"Karl E. Peterson" <karl@mvps.org> wrote:
>>
>>Couldn't have been more damning had it been rigged.
>>
>
>Those **** beta 2 rollbacks.....
>

LOL!

[David Bayley]

Zane Thomas <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
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> 137 (12%) Avoid the whole problem. Use C#.

and...

> 6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET

OK, so DevX still aren't making *any* effort to prevent these "polls" from
being worthless, and instead are happy to use them to ramp up hit-count
numbers for advertisers.

Shame on you Zane for posting these "results".

--
David.

[Zane Thomas]

David,

>> 137 (12%) Avoid the whole problem. Use C#.
>
>and...
>
>> 6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET

And?

>OK, so DevX still aren't making *any* effort to prevent these "polls" from
>being worthless ...

They're just polls, I don't see any claims to statistical significance.
However, of the group of people who chooses to reply, they do say
something.


>... and instead are happy to use them to ramp up hit-count
>numbers for advertisers.

Oh? Another loony conspiracy theory?

>Shame on you Zane for posting these "results".

ROFLMAO!!! Shame on me? Shame on you for putting "blame" on me for
simply pointing to information which exists.


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[Zane Thomas]

On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:12:19 -0600, Dan Barclay <Dan@MVPs.org> wrote:

>>6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET
>>435 (6%) Visual Basic .NET
>
>Is there a clue here?

No doubt, although given the data we have and the fact that the poll
respondents are self-selecting and do not represent a statistically
meaningfull sampe it's not possible to say what the clue might be.

>Given the number of C and VB developers, is
>this really what they expected?

Yes, I know you have your prefered "clue"; another is that VB programmers
are moving en masse to c#.

A statistically meaningless bit of information: Last year when I went to
the South Sound Dotnet User's Group the vast majority of the people there
were VB programmers moving to c#. I'll be speaking there in May and
taking another poll of my own.


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[Dan Barclay]

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:27:02 GMT, zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:


>>That voting can't be taken seriously.
>
>Tell that to Dan and David. ;-)

Is there some Dan that's taking them seriously?

Oh, I did ask about results of any polls that may have been taken at
VSLive didn't I.

Dan
Language Stability is a *feature* I wish VB had!
(#6)

[Dan Barclay]

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:39:03 GMT, zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:33:34 -0600, Dan Barclay <Dan@MVPs.org> wrote:
>
>>Is there some Dan that's taking them seriously?
>
>"Is there a clue here?"

Hmmm... That looks suspiciously like a question to me.

Dan
Language Stability is a *feature* I wish VB had!
(#6)

[Dan Barclay]

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:57:54 GMT, zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:46:27 -0600, Dan Barclay <Dan@MVPs.org> wrote:
>
>>Hmmm... That looks suspiciously like a question to me.
>
>Hmmm, how's this look to you?
>
> (a == true) ? "you betcha" : "|| ~";

Believe it or not, it's beginnin' to be recognizable <g>. It's
amazing that anyone would actually write crap like that though.
Personally, I think they should pull it from the language.

Now, if I can just quit using colons with "=".

Or is it that I need to *start* using colons with "=". Damned
alzheimers.

Dan

Language Stability is a *feature* I wish VB had!
(#6)

[Bill McCarthy]

Hi Zane,

That voting can't be taken seriously. All someone has to do is post an html post like this to a busy newsserver, and the votes all go up.

I think a better indication is the MS newsgroups. There the C# group gets about 25% more posts than the VB.NET one.



"Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message news:3cbd2d27.163940140@news.devx.com...
>
>
> Should Microsoft have provided out-of-the-box compatibility with VB6 in
> Visual Studio .NET?
>
> 434 (37%) No. VB6 was outdated. It's time to advance.
> 399 (34%) Of course. Why do I have to recode all my VB apps?
> 217 (18%) No. But the upgrade Wizard should work seamlessly.
> 137 (12%) Avoid the whole problem. Use C#.
> Total Votes: 1187
>
>
> Which language will you choose for coding with the release of Visual
> Studio .NET this week?
>
> 6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET
> 435 (6%) Visual Basic .NET
> 198 (3%) I don't care about any .NET language.
> 103 (1%) Visual C++ .NET
> 22 (0%) Other (Perl, Python, Eiffel, Smalltalk, etc.)
> Total Votes: 7321
>
> http://www.devx.com/free/votearchives.asp
>
> Enjoy! :-)
>
>
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> Turn on, tune in, download.
> zane@mvps.org