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  1. #1
    Dan Barclay Guest

    Re: Poll Results

    Interesting results.

    >Which language will you choose for coding with the release of Visual
    >Studio .NET this week?
    >
    >6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET
    >435 (6%) Visual Basic .NET


    Is there a clue here? Given the number of C and VB developers, is
    this really what they expected?

    >http://www.devx.com/free/votearchives.asp


    Did anyone take a poll at VSLive? I'll bet those would be every bit
    as representative of the general developer population, eh?.

    Dan
    Language Stability is a *feature* I wish VB had!
    (#6)

  2. #2
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Poll Results



    Should Microsoft have provided out-of-the-box compatibility with VB6 in
    Visual Studio .NET?

    434 (37%) No. VB6 was outdated. It's time to advance.
    399 (34%) Of course. Why do I have to recode all my VB apps?
    217 (18%) No. But the upgrade Wizard should work seamlessly.
    137 (12%) Avoid the whole problem. Use C#.
    Total Votes: 1187


    Which language will you choose for coding with the release of Visual
    Studio .NET this week?

    6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET
    435 (6%) Visual Basic .NET
    198 (3%) I don't care about any .NET language.
    103 (1%) Visual C++ .NET
    22 (0%) Other (Perl, Python, Eiffel, Smalltalk, etc.)
    Total Votes: 7321

    http://www.devx.com/free/votearchives.asp

    Enjoy! :-)


    --
    Turn on, tune in, download.
    zane@mvps.org

  3. #3
    Cali LaFollett Guest

    Re: Poll Results

    > http://www.devx.com/free/votearchives.asp
    >
    > Enjoy! :-)


    Hey, don't shove that stick to far in the hornets nest! ;-)



  4. #4
    Robert Lantry Guest

    Re: Poll Results

    "Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
    news:3cbd2d27.163940140@news.devx.com...
    >
    > Enjoy! :-)
    >


    You're just plain evil, Zane. In a good way, of course. Like an evil
    petting zoo.

    --

    -Robert
    One million dollars! - Bwahahahaha!



  5. #5
    Ray Collins Guest

    Re: Poll Results

    [Microsoft Basic: 1976-2001, RIP]

    Who said that ?
    ;-)
    Classic Coke anyone ?
    "Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
    news:3cbd2d27.163940140@news.devx.com...
    >
    >
    > Should Microsoft have provided out-of-the-box compatibility with VB6 in
    > Visual Studio .NET?
    >
    > 434 (37%) No. VB6 was outdated. It's time to advance.
    > 399 (34%) Of course. Why do I have to recode all my VB apps?
    > 217 (18%) No. But the upgrade Wizard should work seamlessly.
    > 137 (12%) Avoid the whole problem. Use C#.
    > Total Votes: 1187
    >
    >
    > Which language will you choose for coding with the release of Visual
    > Studio .NET this week?
    >
    > 6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET
    > 435 (6%) Visual Basic .NET
    > 198 (3%) I don't care about any .NET language.
    > 103 (1%) Visual C++ .NET
    > 22 (0%) Other (Perl, Python, Eiffel, Smalltalk, etc.)
    > Total Votes: 7321
    >
    > http://www.devx.com/free/votearchives.asp
    >
    > Enjoy! :-)
    >
    >
    > --
    > Turn on, tune in, download.
    > zane@mvps.org




  6. #6
    Patrick Troughton Guest

    Re: Poll Results


    "Karl E. Peterson" <karl@mvps.org> wrote:
    >
    >Couldn't have been more damning had it been rigged.
    >


    Those **** beta 2 rollbacks.....

    /Pat

  7. #7
    Karl E. Peterson Guest

    Re: Poll Results

    "Dan Barclay" <Dan@MVPs.org> wrote in message
    news:kj94ausgudo1d8ncnmfu2cr4sqceucgi40@4ax.com...
    > Interesting results.
    >
    > >Which language will you choose for coding with the release of Visual
    > >Studio .NET this week?
    > >
    > >6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET
    > >435 (6%) Visual Basic .NET

    >
    > Is there a clue here? Given the number of C and VB developers, is
    > this really what they expected?


    Couldn't have been more damning had it been rigged.

    Later... Karl
    --
    [Microsoft Basic: 1976-2001, RIP]


  8. #8
    Paul Mc Guest

    Re: Poll Results


    "Patrick Troughton" <Patrick@Troughton.com> wrote:
    >
    >"Karl E. Peterson" <karl@mvps.org> wrote:
    >>
    >>Couldn't have been more damning had it been rigged.
    >>

    >
    >Those **** beta 2 rollbacks.....
    >


    LOL!

  9. #9
    David Bayley Guest

    Re: Poll Results

    Zane Thomas <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message
    news:3cbd2d27.163940140@news.devx.com...

    > 137 (12%) Avoid the whole problem. Use C#.


    and...

    > 6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET


    OK, so DevX still aren't making *any* effort to prevent these "polls" from
    being worthless, and instead are happy to use them to ramp up hit-count
    numbers for advertisers.

    Shame on you Zane for posting these "results".

    --
    David.




  10. #10
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: Poll Results

    David,

    >> 137 (12%) Avoid the whole problem. Use C#.

    >
    >and...
    >
    >> 6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET


    And?

    >OK, so DevX still aren't making *any* effort to prevent these "polls" from
    >being worthless ...


    They're just polls, I don't see any claims to statistical significance.
    However, of the group of people who chooses to reply, they do say
    something.


    >... and instead are happy to use them to ramp up hit-count
    >numbers for advertisers.


    Oh? Another loony conspiracy theory?

    >Shame on you Zane for posting these "results".


    ROFLMAO!!! Shame on me? Shame on you for putting "blame" on me for
    simply pointing to information which exists.


    --
    Turn on, tune in, download.
    zane@mvps.org

  11. #11
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: Poll Results

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:12:19 -0600, Dan Barclay <Dan@MVPs.org> wrote:

    >>6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET
    >>435 (6%) Visual Basic .NET

    >
    >Is there a clue here?


    No doubt, although given the data we have and the fact that the poll
    respondents are self-selecting and do not represent a statistically
    meaningfull sampe it's not possible to say what the clue might be.

    >Given the number of C and VB developers, is
    >this really what they expected?


    Yes, I know you have your prefered "clue"; another is that VB programmers
    are moving en masse to c#.

    A statistically meaningless bit of information: Last year when I went to
    the South Sound Dotnet User's Group the vast majority of the people there
    were VB programmers moving to c#. I'll be speaking there in May and
    taking another poll of my own.


    --
    Turn on, tune in, download.
    zane@mvps.org

  12. #12
    Dan Barclay Guest

    Re: Poll Results

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:27:02 GMT, zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:


    >>That voting can't be taken seriously.

    >
    >Tell that to Dan and David. ;-)


    Is there some Dan that's taking them seriously?

    Oh, I did ask about results of any polls that may have been taken at
    VSLive didn't I.

    Dan
    Language Stability is a *feature* I wish VB had!
    (#6)

  13. #13
    Dan Barclay Guest

    Re: Poll Results

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:39:03 GMT, zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:33:34 -0600, Dan Barclay <Dan@MVPs.org> wrote:
    >
    >>Is there some Dan that's taking them seriously?

    >
    >"Is there a clue here?"


    Hmmm... That looks suspiciously like a question to me.

    Dan
    Language Stability is a *feature* I wish VB had!
    (#6)

  14. #14
    Dan Barclay Guest

    Re: Poll Results

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:57:54 GMT, zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:46:27 -0600, Dan Barclay <Dan@MVPs.org> wrote:
    >
    >>Hmmm... That looks suspiciously like a question to me.

    >
    >Hmmm, how's this look to you?
    >
    > (a == true) ? "you betcha" : "|| ~";


    Believe it or not, it's beginnin' to be recognizable <g>. It's
    amazing that anyone would actually write crap like that though.
    Personally, I think they should pull it from the language.

    Now, if I can just quit using colons with "=".

    Or is it that I need to *start* using colons with "=". Damned
    alzheimers.

    Dan

    Language Stability is a *feature* I wish VB had!
    (#6)

  15. #15
    Bill McCarthy Guest

    Re: Poll Results

    Hi Zane,

    That voting can't be taken seriously. All someone has to do is post an html post like this to a busy newsserver, and the votes all go up.

    I think a better indication is the MS newsgroups. There the C# group gets about 25% more posts than the VB.NET one.



    "Zane Thomas" <zane@mabry.com> wrote in message news:3cbd2d27.163940140@news.devx.com...
    >
    >
    > Should Microsoft have provided out-of-the-box compatibility with VB6 in
    > Visual Studio .NET?
    >
    > 434 (37%) No. VB6 was outdated. It's time to advance.
    > 399 (34%) Of course. Why do I have to recode all my VB apps?
    > 217 (18%) No. But the upgrade Wizard should work seamlessly.
    > 137 (12%) Avoid the whole problem. Use C#.
    > Total Votes: 1187
    >
    >
    > Which language will you choose for coding with the release of Visual
    > Studio .NET this week?
    >
    > 6563 (90%) Visual C# .NET
    > 435 (6%) Visual Basic .NET
    > 198 (3%) I don't care about any .NET language.
    > 103 (1%) Visual C++ .NET
    > 22 (0%) Other (Perl, Python, Eiffel, Smalltalk, etc.)
    > Total Votes: 7321
    >
    > http://www.devx.com/free/votearchives.asp
    >
    > Enjoy! :-)
    >
    >
    > --
    > Turn on, tune in, download.
    > zane@mvps.org



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