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  1. #1
    Eng Heong Guest

    Scrambing html source code


    Hi

    I am using Frontpage 2000 to create my webpages.
    In one of the pages is a password form, requesting for username and password.
    I notice that anyone can view the html source code with the IE5.
    Is there a way to scramble the html source code?

    Thanks


  2. #2
    Captain_Kirk Guest

    Re: Scrambing html source code

    You can 'compress' it. But 'scrambling' would defeat the object of putting
    stuff on the web.

    "Eng Heong" <wpx@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
    news:3945993a$1@news.devx.com...
    >
    > Hi
    >
    > I am using Frontpage 2000 to create my webpages.
    > In one of the pages is a password form, requesting for username and

    password.
    > I notice that anyone can view the html source code with the IE5.
    > Is there a way to scramble the html source code?
    >
    > Thanks
    >




  3. #3
    T. Bradley Dean Guest

    Re: Scrambing html source code

    You can use ASP.

    Have the form go to an ASP page that processes the user name and password,
    and then shows the results. If they view the results page, they won't see
    any of the code used to check the password.


    Captain_Kirk <Captain_Kirk@giantsfan.com> wrote in message
    news:39469e0f@news.devx.com...
    > You can 'compress' it. But 'scrambling' would defeat the object of putting
    > stuff on the web.
    >
    > "Eng Heong" <wpx@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
    > news:3945993a$1@news.devx.com...
    > >
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > I am using Frontpage 2000 to create my webpages.
    > > In one of the pages is a password form, requesting for username and

    > password.
    > > I notice that anyone can view the html source code with the IE5.
    > > Is there a way to scramble the html source code?
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > >

    >
    >




  4. #4
    Chad Moore Guest

    Re: Scrambing html source code

    You could hide the code... To do that you can make a frameset with only your
    page in it, then on the actual page you can put a javascript to disable
    right clicking.

    This way, when you right click the page, there is no way to get to the "view
    source" option, and if you go to the "view source" option in the browser's
    menu, you get the frameset's source which will have only the name of the
    page, no code.


    "Eng Heong" <wpx@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
    news:3945993a$1@news.devx.com...
    >
    > Hi
    >
    > I am using Frontpage 2000 to create my webpages.
    > In one of the pages is a password form, requesting for username and

    password.
    > I notice that anyone can view the html source code with the IE5.
    > Is there a way to scramble the html source code?
    >
    > Thanks
    >




  5. #5
    T. Bradley Dean Guest

    Re: Scrambing html source code

    But if you 'view source' it will give you the name of the file in the frame.
    Type that into the browser and it will come up without the frame. Then just
    'view source' again.

    Chad Moore <chadm@mitem.com> wrote in message
    news:39490db5$1@news.devx.com...
    > You could hide the code... To do that you can make a frameset with only

    your
    > page in it, then on the actual page you can put a javascript to disable
    > right clicking.
    >
    > This way, when you right click the page, there is no way to get to the

    "view
    > source" option, and if you go to the "view source" option in the browser's
    > menu, you get the frameset's source which will have only the name of the
    > page, no code.
    >
    >
    > "Eng Heong" <wpx@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
    > news:3945993a$1@news.devx.com...
    > >
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > I am using Frontpage 2000 to create my webpages.
    > > In one of the pages is a password form, requesting for username and

    > password.
    > > I notice that anyone can view the html source code with the IE5.
    > > Is there a way to scramble the html source code?
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > >

    >
    >




  6. #6
    Chris Geirman Guest

    Re: Scrambing html source code


    "Chad Moore" <chadm@mitem.com> wrote:
    >You could hide the code... To do that you can make a frameset with only

    your
    >page in it, then on the actual page you can put a javascript to disable
    >right clicking.
    >
    >This way, when you right click the page, there is no way to get to the "view
    >source" option, and if you go to the "view source" option in the browser's
    >menu, you get the frameset's source which will have only the name of the
    >page, no code.
    >


    if you decide to go this route, you had better include a script that forces
    each child page to be part of the frameset. Otherwise the saavy iBrowser
    could view the source, grab the url of the child page (containing the code)
    and load that into the browser independent of the frameset.


  7. #7
    Jason Smith Guest

    Re: Scrambing html source code


    If you are using IE5, and only IE5, you can use Microsoft encoding to encode
    VBScript and JScript code. It isn't really very secure, but it will keep
    most people of ages 12 and under from being able to figure out what you are
    doing. If you want some ASP source code, let me know and I'll send it to
    you (you can encode stuff on the fly in ASP).

    It isn't a good idea to send a password down to the client for verification,
    not in any circumstances, not even encoded. That person might be using the
    same password for their domain log-on, or for other vital things. I will
    assume that this is not what you were planning to do.

    You can pass the name and password up to the server for verification. If
    you do this, you should consider designing that part of your web application
    using SSL (Secure Sockets Layer). That way, only the client machine and
    the server machine know what was passed. Any snoops will get encrypted data.
    If you do this with forms, there is no need to hide HTML or script. All
    the important stuff is done on the server.

    If you are really paranoid, have the user enter a name and a password the
    first time they log in (when they register), and HASH the password. From
    then on, HASH the password on the client, and only send the HASH-CODE to
    the server, not the name and password. Heck, you now only need to store
    the HASH on the server, and the password is lost forever (except to your
    user). You still need to do identity verification using SSL or some other
    form of encryption, since a hacker could log in with a name and a HASH.
    But the user's password would not be compromised even if someone got access
    to your server.

    Hope that helps.

    "Eng Heong" <wpx@pacific.net.sg> wrote:
    >
    >Hi
    >
    >I am using Frontpage 2000 to create my webpages.
    >In one of the pages is a password form, requesting for username and password.
    >I notice that anyone can view the html source code with the IE5.
    >Is there a way to scramble the html source code?
    >
    >Thanks
    >



  8. #8
    Chris Karper Guest

    Re: Scrambing html source code


    Just disable Javascript in your browser to defeat this scheme.


    "Chad Moore" <chadm@mitem.com> wrote:
    >You could hide the code... To do that you can make a frameset with only

    your
    >page in it, then on the actual page you can put a javascript to disable
    >right clicking.
    >
    >This way, when you right click the page, there is no way to get to the "view
    >source" option, and if you go to the "view source" option in the browser's
    >menu, you get the frameset's source which will have only the name of the
    >page, no code.
    >
    >
    >"Eng Heong" <wpx@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
    >news:3945993a$1@news.devx.com...
    >>
    >> Hi
    >>
    >> I am using Frontpage 2000 to create my webpages.
    >> In one of the pages is a password form, requesting for username and

    >password.
    >> I notice that anyone can view the html source code with the IE5.
    >> Is there a way to scramble the html source code?
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>

    >
    >



  9. #9
    killboy poowerhead Guest

    Re: Scrambing html source code


    "Chad Moore" <chadm@mitem.com> wrote:
    >You could hide the code... To do that you can make a frameset with only

    your
    >page in it, then on the actual page you can put a javascript to disable
    >right clicking.
    >
    >This way, when you right click the page, there is no way to get to the "view
    >source" option, and if you go to the "view source" option in the browser's
    >menu, you get the frameset's source which will have only the name of the
    >page, no code.
    >
    >
    >"Eng Heong" <wpx@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
    >news:3945993a$1@news.devx.com...
    >>
    >> Hi
    >>
    >> I am using Frontpage 2000 to create my webpages.
    >> In one of the pages is a password form, requesting for username and

    >password.
    >> I notice that anyone can view the html source code with the IE5.
    >> Is there a way to scramble the html source code?
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>

    >
    >



  10. #10
    Rohit Wason Guest

    Re: Scrambing html source code


    >You could hide the code... To do that you can make a frameset with only your
    >page in it, then on the actual page you can put a javascript to disable
    >right clicking.


    I think using .js file is a better option. Or you can use two frames - one
    having the vital validation code (in case you don't want to use ASP or any
    other Server Scripting) and the other having the user-interface.

    Disabling the right click wont help - how about the View->Source menu option?
    and how about the context menu shortcut key on the Miscrosoft KeyBoard??
    :-)

    Rohit

  11. #11
    Sheldon Livingston Guest

    Re: Scrambing html source code


    I don't believe you can 'disable' the right click on older browsers.

    "Chad Moore" <chadm@mitem.com> wrote:
    >You could hide the code... To do that you can make a frameset with only

    your
    >page in it, then on the actual page you can put a javascript to disable
    >right clicking.
    >
    >This way, when you right click the page, there is no way to get to the "view
    >source" option, and if you go to the "view source" option in the browser's
    >menu, you get the frameset's source which will have only the name of the
    >page, no code.
    >
    >
    >"Eng Heong" <wpx@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
    >news:3945993a$1@news.devx.com...
    >>
    >> Hi
    >>
    >> I am using Frontpage 2000 to create my webpages.
    >> In one of the pages is a password form, requesting for username and

    >password.
    >> I notice that anyone can view the html source code with the IE5.
    >> Is there a way to scramble the html source code?
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>

    >
    >



  12. #12
    Mike Guest

    Re: Scrambing html source code


    Couldn't you just look at the <FRAMESET> source code to see which pages are
    being pulled into each frame and copy the name of the page you want into
    the address bar? From there it would bring up the page out of the frame and
    the source would then be viewable.


    "Chad Moore" <chadm@mitem.com> wrote:
    >You could hide the code... To do that you can make a frameset with only

    your
    >page in it, then on the actual page you can put a javascript to disable
    >right clicking.
    >
    >This way, when you right click the page, there is no way to get to the "view
    >source" option, and if you go to the "view source" option in the browser's
    >menu, you get the frameset's source which will have only the name of the
    >page, no code.
    >
    >
    >"Eng Heong" <wpx@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
    >news:3945993a$1@news.devx.com...
    >>
    >> Hi
    >>
    >> I am using Frontpage 2000 to create my webpages.
    >> In one of the pages is a password form, requesting for username and

    >password.
    >> I notice that anyone can view the html source code with the IE5.
    >> Is there a way to scramble the html source code?
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>

    >
    >



  13. #13
    Sheldon Livingston Guest

    Re: Scrambing html source code


    I believe the .js file is downloaded to the temporary internet files folder...

    "Rohit Wason" <rohitw@futuresoftindia.com> wrote:
    >
    >>You could hide the code... To do that you can make a frameset with only

    your
    >>page in it, then on the actual page you can put a javascript to disable
    >>right clicking.

    >
    >I think using .js file is a better option. Or you can use two frames - one
    >having the vital validation code (in case you don't want to use ASP or any
    >other Server Scripting) and the other having the user-interface.
    >
    >Disabling the right click wont help - how about the View->Source menu option?
    >and how about the context menu shortcut key on the Miscrosoft KeyBoard??
    >:-)
    >
    >Rohit



  14. #14
    Don W Guest

    Re: Scrambing html source code


    Just create an include file, either a .js or .htm..... Then put that file
    in _scriptlibrary or a protected folder. Then no one will have access to
    it! When you view source the user will see the name of the include file,
    but doesn't see the actual code for it, nor does he/she have access to it!

    D

    "Mike" <mcox@americantelnet.com> wrote:
    >
    >Couldn't you just look at the <FRAMESET> source code to see which pages

    are
    >being pulled into each frame and copy the name of the page you want into
    >the address bar? From there it would bring up the page out of the frame

    and
    >the source would then be viewable.
    >
    >
    >"Chad Moore" <chadm@mitem.com> wrote:
    >>You could hide the code... To do that you can make a frameset with only

    >your
    >>page in it, then on the actual page you can put a javascript to disable
    >>right clicking.
    >>
    >>This way, when you right click the page, there is no way to get to the

    "view
    >>source" option, and if you go to the "view source" option in the browser's
    >>menu, you get the frameset's source which will have only the name of the
    >>page, no code.
    >>
    >>
    >>"Eng Heong" <wpx@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
    >>news:3945993a$1@news.devx.com...
    >>>
    >>> Hi
    >>>
    >>> I am using Frontpage 2000 to create my webpages.
    >>> In one of the pages is a password form, requesting for username and

    >>password.
    >>> I notice that anyone can view the html source code with the IE5.
    >>> Is there a way to scramble the html source code?
    >>>
    >>> Thanks
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >



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