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  1. #31
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: Hello vb.oop - I'm a troll

    On 5 Dec 2002 16:47:45 -0800, "Blob" <blob@blobbloblboblo.com> wrote:

    >Or the english and showers? Or the irish and non-alcoholic beer? Or white
    >guys and big(oops), well you know the rest?


    Egos.

    MM

  2. #32
    Paul MC Guest

    Re: Hello vb.oop - I'm a troll


    >>Hey Block, or whatever the handle is nowadays.

    >Hey Paully, it's Blob. And don't you forget it.



    Well, I'll certainly try my darndest not to, Block...

    >If it was Ted, how do you know that was my real name then? Hmmm?

    Who would bother making up a name like Ted?

    >I think I have mentioned I use numerous aliases here.

    Not being one to religiously pore over your posts, I will take your word
    on that.


    >Yeah, from what I see, Ted was outclassed by guys writing enterprise apps
    >with Access as their backend DB,

    Yeah, didn't take much, did it Block?

    >The original article was written in C++ wasn't it?

    Ahh, yes I am starting to remember it now. Still spouting that plaintive,
    squeaking little refrain?

    > All of this from
    >the same person who took the time to answer such idiotic questions as "what
    >is an HRESULT"?

    Well, you kept on asking - I felt sorry for you. Had a bit of trouble understanding
    the concept of multiple vtables too, If I remember correctly? Funny, coming
    from a Com-god like yourself, hey Block?

    >By the way, the comments you posted over there in 2001 look
    >an awful lot like they came from the book of the author you reference >here.


    No, although authors like Curland and Patterson have helped me round out
    my understanding of many concepts.


    > You should have kept that 10 minutes you spent pondering how to reply and
    >put it to use in more productive ways.


    Wow, this from a guy who either:
    a) spent a couple of hours searching back through year+ old posts looking
    for some ammo or
    b) actually remembered this stuffd off the top of his head.
    Look like you should be looking for a life to me, Block.

    >Unfortunately just because somebody writes a book that does not make them
    >an expert, you lemming.


    No, I agree. There are many books out there that are a waste of good bookshelf.
    Curland is an expert - the fact that he has authored a book does not have
    any bearing on that fact.

    >You would follow just about any instruction wouldn't you?

    What instructions are you referring to, Block?

    >I think it was also you that mentioned the hundred or so VB books out
    >there that could explain VB.


    I could have, can't remember. Can't remember the context either, so I will
    let you have that one, Block. Enjoy it!


    Cheers
    Paul


  3. #33
    Blob Guest

    Re: Hello vb.oop - I'm a troll


    "Paul MC" <paulmc@nospam.thehub.com.au> wrote:
    >
    >>>Hey Block, or whatever the handle is nowadays.

    >>Hey Paully, it's Blob. And don't you forget it.

    >
    >
    >Well, I'll certainly try my darndest not to, Block...

    Come on, don't make me beg, IT BE BLOB **** IT!!!

    >
    >>If it was Ted, how do you know that was my real name then? Hmmm?

    >Who would bother making up a name like Ted?

    Uh, Ted?

    >>I think I have mentioned I use numerous aliases here.

    >Not being one to religiously pore over your posts, I will take your word
    >on that.

    Well, read on a little further and it seems you do. Matter of fact you brought
    up the post from a year ago. hmm not a religious man eh?
    >
    >
    >>Yeah, from what I see, Ted was outclassed by guys writing enterprise apps
    >>with Access as their backend DB,

    >Yeah, didn't take much, did it Block?

    That was sarcasm. Don't talk about outclassing anyone when you use Access
    and VB. I know junior high kids doing the same thing. Matter of fact that's
    what my nephew is being taught today and he's 14. Nice to know you're writing
    those same world class enterprise apps as my 14 year old nephew.

    >
    >>The original article was written in C++ wasn't it?

    >Ahh, yes I am starting to remember it now. Still spouting that plaintive,
    >squeaking little refrain?

    No it seems you started with the VB ****. From going over it you should
    have kept your yapper shut.

    >> All of this from
    >>the same person who took the time to answer such idiotic questions as "what
    >>is an HRESULT"?

    >Well, you kept on asking - I felt sorry for you.

    Kept on asking? Once, in jest.

    Had a bit of trouble understanding
    >the concept of multiple vtables too, If I remember correctly? Funny, coming
    >from a Com-god like yourself, hey Block?

    Oh come on. You never actually answered the question about that then. As
    Ted said, Click, Add Reference, now you know COM.

    >>By the way, the comments you posted over there in 2001 look
    >>an awful lot like they came from the book of the author you reference >here.

    >
    >No, although authors like Curland and Patterson have helped me round out
    >my understanding of many concepts.

    That's not what I said. I said that the comments look a lot like a book
    of the authors that you have been yapping about.

    >> You should have kept that 10 minutes you spent pondering how to reply

    and
    >>put it to use in more productive ways.

    >
    >Wow, this from a guy who either:
    >a) spent a couple of hours searching back through year+ old posts looking
    >for some ammo or

    A couple of hours? Search - "Dumbass Paul MC", about 10 seconds.

    >b) actually remembered this stuffd off the top of his head.
    >Look like you should be looking for a life to me, Block.

    Oh here we go again. Get a life? Come on, from an Aussie? Last time I
    was in Australia, the surf was great, but the women were hairy and stunk.
    You must have a life down under? I mean chasing those hairy women or the
    roos? Choices, choices.

    >>Unfortunately just because somebody writes a book that does not make them
    >>an expert, you lemming.

    >
    >No, I agree.

    That you're a lemming? Great we agree on something.

    There are many books out there that are a waste of good bookshelf.
    >Curland is an expert - the fact that he has authored a book does not have
    >any bearing on that fact.

    How do you rate him as an expert? What are your qualifications? I'll bet
    the book argument pops up somewhere.



  4. #34
    Paul Mc Guest

    Re: Hello vb.oop - I'm a troll


    >Uh, Ted?

    More likely his parents, I would guess, Blip.

    >Don't talk about outclassing anyone when you use Access
    >and VB.


    Actually, we use MSSQL/Oracle + c#/VB.Net (was MSSQL/Oracle VB in the old
    days). But, don't let accuracy stand in your way Blub.

    >No it seems you started with the VB ****. From going over it you should
    >have kept your yapper shut.


    And, still going. You sound kind of like a scratched record, Blump.

    >Oh come on. You never actually answered the question about that then. As
    >Ted said, Click, Add Reference, now you know COM.


    Hmm, that's funny, I seem to remember a resonably long post explaining all
    about it, Burp.

    >Get a life? Come on, from an Aussie? Last time I
    >was in Australia, the surf was great, but the women were hairy and stunk.
    > You must have a life down under? I mean chasing those hairy women or >the

    roos? Choices, choices.

    Wow, you technical prowess has certainly put me in my place, Blonk. What
    a vast suppository of knowledge!

    >How do you rate him as an expert? What are your qualifications? I'll >bet

    the book argument pops up somewhere.

    Take a look at his code sometime, Blunt. Who knows, you may even be able
    to understand some of it...



  5. #35
    Blob Guest

    Re: Hello vb.oop - I'm a troll


    >>Uh, Ted?

    >More likely his parents, I would guess, Blip.
    >
    >>Don't talk about outclassing anyone when you use Access
    >>and VB.

    >
    >Actually, we use MSSQL/Oracle + c#/VB.Net (was MSSQL/Oracle VB in the old
    >days). But, don't let accuracy stand in your way Blub.

    Boy how things change. Hmm, a year praising the merits of Access and now
    this? I believe it was accurate.


    >>No it seems you started with the VB ****. From going over it you should
    >>have kept your yapper shut.

    >
    >And, still going. You sound kind of like a scratched record, Blump.

    You're getting there. Scratching and rapping, yo yo yo.

    >>Oh come on. You never actually answered the question about that then.

    As
    >>Ted said, Click, Add Reference, now you know COM.

    >
    >Hmm, that's funny, I seem to remember a resonably long post explaining all
    >about it, Burp.

    You seem to remember a lot about those posts for someone who has a life with
    no time to ponder posts from a year ago.


    >>Get a life? Come on, from an Aussie? Last time I
    >>was in Australia, the surf was great, but the women were hairy and stunk.
    >> You must have a life down under? I mean chasing those hairy women or

    >the
    >roos? Choices, choices.
    >
    >Wow, you technical prowess has certainly put me in my place, Blonk. What
    >a vast suppository of knowledge!



    Wasn't intended to be technical, well maybe the surf part. Right now I am
    trying to get surf forecasts for a surf reporting site and you know, Australia
    always seems to come back wrong. You're not working on this are you? I
    mean Access probably wouldn't have been the best choice with so many places
    to surf in Australia. You wouldn't be spending too much time around kings
    cross now would you?

    >
    >>How do you rate him as an expert? What are your qualifications? I'll

    >bet
    >the book argument pops up somewhere.
    >
    >Take a look at his code sometime, Blunt. Who knows, you may even be able
    >to understand some of it...

    Oh, the code? That's what it takes? Hmmm. I seem to remember the article
    that was posted in regards to the post you were referring a year or so ago.
    That article had some good code, unfortunately he copied it directly from
    Advanced C++(Coplien). Hmm, the code was good, but it wasn't his. Ok, now
    I get it. Maybe I should borrow some code from my favorite authors - Grimes
    and Box and write a book? Makes me an expert?


    But now you are talking my language, Blunt, coool. Wanna get high? Still
    can't figure out how I passed the last drug screen.

  6. #36
    blob Guest

    Re: Hello vb.oop - I'm a troll


    "Paul Mc" <paulmc@nospam.thehub.com.au> wrote:
    >
    >Hey Block, or whatever the handle is nowadays. You remind of that fellow

    Ted
    >from way back, over in the architecture group. What's the matter, too timid
    >to go by the real name nowadays? As I remember you got outclassed back there...
    >And here to, if you are going to bait Matt Curland, a guy who is so far

    beyond
    >your capabilities that you'd be lucky to see his dust with Hubble....
    >


    I am just a big idiot,,,, blah, blah, blah, blah, blob, blurb, blub, burp

    Duhhhhh!

  7. #37
    Jeff Guest

    Re: Hello vb.oop - I'm a troll


    "blob" <blob@blobblobblob.com> wrote:
    >
    >And away we gooooooo.


    It is obvious to me that he doesn’t have much to do at the moment and has
    come here entertain himself. To see how many people he can get a rise out
    of.

    If this is a game I would have to declare him the winner.


  8. #38
    Willy Van den Driessche Guest

    Re: Hello vb.oop - I'm a troll

    "Jeff" <vb.@127.0.0.1> schreef in bericht
    news:3df76dd1$1@tnews.web.devx.com...
    >
    > "blob" <blob@blobblobblob.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >And away we gooooooo.

    >
    > It is obvious to me that he doesn’t have much to do at the moment and has
    > come here entertain himself. To see how many people he can get a rise out
    > of.
    >
    > If this is a game I would have to declare him the winner.
    >


    Which probably means we aren't playing too ? :-)

    --
    For a work in progress :
    http://users.skynet.be/wvdd2/



  9. #39
    Blob Guest

    Re: Hello vb.oop - I'm a troll


    "Jeff" <vb.@127.0.0.1> wrote:
    >
    >"blob" <blob@blobblobblob.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>And away we gooooooo.

    >
    >It is obvious to me that he doesn’t have much to do at the moment and has
    >come here entertain himself. To see how many people he can get a rise out
    >of.
    >
    >If this is a game I would have to declare him the winner.
    >


    You have got to be the smartest person in this group. Finally, someone gets
    it.

    Unfortunately Jeff, some of your counterparts don't get it and continue to
    indulge me, even after I let them know why I'm here.

  10. #40
    Blob Guest

    Re: Hello vb.oop - I'm a troll


    >Which probably means we aren't playing too ? :-)


    You're all playing. Unfortunately most of you only play when it suits you.
    I am still waiting to here what makes you an expert on writing articles
    of why to choose(or not to) OO. You reference an article that "you" wrote,
    that is your opinion and not fact and then you run away when confronted on
    it. This is what I mean by playing when it suits you. There are many, many(well
    probably all) of you that choose to take this route.

  11. #41
    Willy Van den Driessche Guest

    Re: Hello vb.oop - I'm a troll

    "Blob" <blob@blobbloblboblo.com> schreef in bericht
    news:3df7ced4$1@tnews.web.devx.com...
    >
    > >Which probably means we aren't playing too ? :-)

    >
    > You're all playing. Unfortunately most of you only play when it suits

    you.
    That's the fortunate site of newsgroups, isn't it. You don't have to reply
    if you don't want to.

    > I am still waiting to here what makes you an expert on writing articles
    > of why to choose(or not to) OO.

    I've never even claimed I'm an expert in anything. The articles I did write
    never talked at all about why to choose (or not to) for OO programming. The
    fact is that I myself tend to go for an OO approach and the articles on my
    site just explain my experiences when doing OO. The article I wrote is just
    my previous experience with implementation inheritance. I've got a lot of
    doubts about the usefullness of this technique in component-based
    applications (and bringing some real authority in, I am not alone :
    http://www.aw.com/catalog/academic/p...745720,00.html)
    If you see the problems with implementation inheritance, then I am happy
    with a programming language that doesn't support it. I don't say anybody
    else should share my opinion. As for the rest of the classic OOP
    requirements : encapulation and polymorphism, VB6 does them.
    So I really don't see the contradiction between OO and VB.
    Let's bring on another authority :
    http://www.aw.com/catalog/academic/p...633612,00.html . I
    guess there is little debate that this catalog describes "best of breed"
    practices for OO design. Out of 23 design patterns, there is only 1 that
    needs implementation inheritance (Template Method). All of the others rely
    on interface inheritance alone. That means there's one design pattern that
    cannot be done in VB (and that's more because interface based programming
    doesn't need it).

    > You reference an article that "you" wrote,
    > that is your opinion and not fact and then you run away when confronted on
    > it.

    I never said is was more than opinion. All of the articles on my site are.
    I give up when you start talking about my daughter. That's all.
    Anyway, throwing an argument in the discussion group without any
    alternatives and without revealing your true identity seems more like
    running away to me. I didn't see you argument with Matthew either.

    > This is what I mean by playing when it suits you. There are many,

    many(well
    > probably all) of you that choose to take this route.

    Isn't that a requirement for playing ?

    --
    For a work in progress :
    http://users.skynet.be/wvdd2/



  12. #42
    Blob Guest

    Re: Hello vb.oop - I'm a troll


    Everything else was too long winded for me.

    >I give up when you start talking about my daughter. That's all.

    I was complimenting your kid. Re-read the post.


    >Anyway, throwing an argument in the discussion group without any
    >alternatives and without revealing your true identity seems more like
    >running away to me.

    And I am supposed to believe your real name is "willy"??? Come on.

    >I didn't see you argument with Matthew either.

    I wasn't arguing with anyone. I threw something out to see how many would
    bite. It was a bit of an experiment.

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