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  1. #1
    Phil Weber Guest

    Re: Random Access Files

    Eddie: This newsgroup is for discussion of new features in the next release
    of VB, not for general VB questions. I have moved your question to the
    vb.general newsgroup, which is provided for this purpose. Thanks!
    ---
    Phil Weber
    DevX Newsgroup Admin



  2. #2
    Bertie Wooster Guest

    Re: Random Access Files

    "Phil Weber" <pweber@devx.com> wrote in message
    news:39dfceca$1@news.devx.com...
    > Eddie: This newsgroup is for discussion of new features in the next

    release
    > of VB, not for general VB questions. I have moved your question to the
    > vb.general newsgroup, which is provided for this purpose. Thanks!


    Phil, I asked some time ago why this newsgrope was still called vb7, and I
    seem to remember that part of the excuse^Wreason was that messages couldn't
    be easily moved between newsgroups.

    Surely it's time to rename the group, otherwise its current designation will
    continue to serve as a pitiful reminder of what might have been?

    Bertie



  3. #3
    Phil Weber Guest

    Re: Random Access Files

    > I asked some time ago why this newsgroup was still called
    > vb7, and I seem to remember that part of the excuse^W
    > reason was that messages couldn't be easily moved between
    > newsgroups.


    Bertie: I don't know who told you that, but it's not correct. Messages can
    be "moved" (actually copied, then deleted) from one group to another. The
    real reason the group is named vb.vb7 is that one of DevX' chief editors
    (who are ultimately responsible for which groups are created and what
    they're called) wasn't convinced that the "VB.NET" designation wouldn't be
    changed prior to the shipping of the product.

    At any rate, I don't see that it's a big deal: we all understand the subject
    and purpose of this group. What difference does it make what it's called?
    ---
    Phil Weber



  4. #4
    Bertie Wooster Guest

    Re: Random Access Files

    "Phil Weber" <pweber@devx.com> wrote in message
    news:39e08b94@news.devx.com...
    >
    > At any rate, I don't see that it's a big deal: we all understand the

    subject
    > and purpose of this group. What difference does it make what it's called?


    It's just that there was a lengthy spate of people asking about "VB7" with
    Robert Scoble (I think) answering each one with "It's not called VB7 any
    more". So a rename seemed appropriate!

    Bertie



  5. #5
    Michael \(michka\) Kaplan Guest

    Re: Random Access Files

    Well, only if you believe that the harsh correction is needed. Just because
    marketing says its so does not mean that there are not still plenty of
    people even inside MS who call it VS7 and VB7..... I still call Windows 2000
    by its NT5 name all the time (and I am not the only one).

    Long live VS 2002? <g>

    --
    MichKa

    random junk of dubious value at the
    multilingual http://www.trigeminal.com/ and
    a new book on internationalization in VB at
    http://www.i18nWithVB.com/

    "Bertie Wooster" <bertiew@thedrones.club.uk> wrote in message
    news:39e0a136$1@news.devx.com...
    > "Phil Weber" <pweber@devx.com> wrote in message
    > news:39e08b94@news.devx.com...
    > >
    > > At any rate, I don't see that it's a big deal: we all understand the

    > subject
    > > and purpose of this group. What difference does it make what it's

    called?
    >
    > It's just that there was a lengthy spate of people asking about "VB7" with
    > Robert Scoble (I think) answering each one with "It's not called VB7 any
    > more". So a rename seemed appropriate!
    >
    > Bertie
    >
    >




  6. #6
    Robert Scoble Guest

    Re: Random Access Files

    > It's just that there was a lengthy spate of people asking about "VB7" with
    > Robert Scoble (I think) answering each one with "It's not called VB7 any
    > more". So a rename seemed appropriate!


    Personally, I wish DevX would open up a more general vsdotnet newsgroup.
    Right now this newsgroup has degenerated slightly into a .NET Framework
    newsgroup anyway (and DevX is forcing us to do that cause they refuse to
    open up a more general dotnet newsgroup).

    So, for now, the group's name says vb7, but it really is a dotnet newsgroup
    until they open up more dotnet newsgroups.

    I find it interesting that they can open up tons of Oracle newsgroups but
    they can't open up more dotnet ones, even though the traffic here way
    outpaces the Oracle ones.

    Robert Scoble

    ###



  7. #7
    Michael \(michka\) Kaplan Guest

    Re: Random Access Files

    "Robert Scoble" <rscoble@fawcette.com> wrote in message
    news:39e0ab2a$1@news.devx.com...
    > I find it interesting that they can open up tons of Oracle newsgroups but
    > they can't open up more dotnet ones, even though the traffic here way
    > outpaces the Oracle ones.


    My understanding from Matt is that people have been asking for it.... the
    problem being that letting the people know that DevX has responded can be
    tough (its not like they asked for e-mail addresses from every person who
    has asked, right? <g>).

    --
    MichKa

    random junk of dubious value at the
    multilingual http://www.trigeminal.com/ and
    a new book on internationalization in VB at
    http://www.i18nWithVB.com/




  8. #8
    Robert Scoble Guest

    Re: Random Access Files

    > My understanding from Matt is that people have been asking for it.... the
    > problem being that letting the people know that DevX has responded can be
    > tough (its not like they asked for e-mail addresses from every person who
    > has asked, right? <g>).


    Is that people were asking for Oracle or that people have been asking for
    more dotnet newsgroups?

    Seems to me that based on traffic alone that DevX should open up new dotnet
    newsgroups.

    Robert Scoble

    ###



  9. #9
    Michael \(michka\) Kaplan Guest

    Re: Random Access Files

    The request for Oracle coverage has been longstanding (that was what Matt
    said).

    You are probably in a better position to ask for details than I am....

    --
    MichKa

    random junk of dubious value at the
    multilingual http://www.trigeminal.com/ and
    a new book on internationalization in VB at
    http://www.i18nWithVB.com/

    "Robert Scoble" <rscoble@fawcette.com> wrote in message
    news:39e0bbc6$1@news.devx.com...
    > > My understanding from Matt is that people have been asking for it....

    the
    > > problem being that letting the people know that DevX has responded can

    be
    > > tough (its not like they asked for e-mail addresses from every person

    who
    > > has asked, right? <g>).

    >
    > Is that people were asking for Oracle or that people have been asking for
    > more dotnet newsgroups?
    >
    > Seems to me that based on traffic alone that DevX should open up new

    dotnet
    > newsgroups.
    >
    > Robert Scoble
    >
    > ###
    >
    >




  10. #10
    Phil Weber Guest

    Re: Random Access Files

    > My understanding from Matt is that people have been
    > asking for [Oracle newsgroups].


    Michael: That may be the case, I don't really know. I do know, however, that
    DevX is about to launch new Oracle and Wireless Zones. The new groups were
    created as part of the new Zones.
    ---
    Phil Weber
    DevX.com, Inc.



  11. #11
    Phil Weber Guest

    Re: Random Access Files

    > Seems to me that based on traffic alone that DevX
    > should open up new dotnet newsgroups.


    Robert: Most of the traffic here recently has been about the changes in
    VB.NET (a.k.a. VB7), which is precisely what this group is for. Given that
    we also have groups devoted to C# and ASP+, I'm not sure which .NET traffic
    you think has been in the wrong place.

    But whatever, you don't need to convince me. When the editors tell me to
    create new .NET groups, I'll create 'em.
    ---
    Phil Weber
    DevX.com, Inc.



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