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  1. #1
    tibbs Guest

    How to make consistant site


    I want to make a site that is consistant throughout all the pages. By this
    I mean I want a uniform top and side where I can have a banner and a navigation
    bar. I looked at using templates, but once you make the template and start
    using it then if you wanted to make a change to lets say the table size of
    your navigation bar then you have to do it for each page.

    What I want to be able to do is make a page using tables. Then make all
    my page using these tables and the way they are sized and formated. Then
    if I want to make a change to lets say a table size of my navigation bar
    then I would like to only have to do it in one place and all the pages would
    change.

    Is there a way to do this? Or is this still a pipe dream?

  2. #2
    Veign Guest

    Re: How to make consistant site

    Look up Cascading Style Sheets (CSS). CSS will allow you to setup a single
    style sheet that can control font, colors, positioning, and most features of
    a sute pertaining to its presentation and link the sheet to each of your web
    pages..

    Check out the CSS tips in the Expressit section of my website. If you
    looking for more help or questions about style properties feel free to
    contact me directly from the website

    --
    Veign
    Designing Solutions
    www.veign.com


    "tibbs" <tibbs14@telocity.com> wrote in message
    news:3c1a5962$1@147.208.176.211...
    >
    > I want to make a site that is consistant throughout all the pages. By

    this
    > I mean I want a uniform top and side where I can have a banner and a

    navigation
    > bar. I looked at using templates, but once you make the template and

    start
    > using it then if you wanted to make a change to lets say the table size of
    > your navigation bar then you have to do it for each page.
    >
    > What I want to be able to do is make a page using tables. Then make all
    > my page using these tables and the way they are sized and formated. Then
    > if I want to make a change to lets say a table size of my navigation bar
    > then I would like to only have to do it in one place and all the pages

    would
    > change.
    >
    > Is there a way to do this? Or is this still a pipe dream?




  3. #3
    Charles Blackwell Guest

    Re: How to make consistant site


    Well, from what I know, when I create a template in dreamweaver,
    it does exactly what you are describing. So, I think you might
    want to invest in a html authoring program, so you can use templates
    the way you would like to.

    Charles
    "tibbs" <tibbs14@telocity.com> wrote:
    >
    >I want to make a site that is consistant throughout all the pages. By this
    >I mean I want a uniform top and side where I can have a banner and a navigation
    >bar. I looked at using templates, but once you make the template and start
    >using it then if you wanted to make a change to lets say the table size

    of
    >your navigation bar then you have to do it for each page.
    >
    >What I want to be able to do is make a page using tables. Then make all
    >my page using these tables and the way they are sized and formated. Then
    >if I want to make a change to lets say a table size of my navigation bar
    >then I would like to only have to do it in one place and all the pages would
    >change.
    >
    >Is there a way to do this? Or is this still a pipe dream?



  4. #4
    v1c Guest

    Re: How to make consistant site


    Your best bet would be to use something like ASP , JSP , PHP or Coldfusion
    . They are all server side technology and would make you life alot easier

  5. #5
    Kevin Guest

    Re: How to make consistant site


    What you could do is create an .asp page and then usse the Server.Execute(page.asp)
    to insert a header page at the top of a page or a navigation page. Works
    great this way you will only have the one page to maintain and have it change
    everything on all your pages.

    "tibbs" <tibbs14@telocity.com> wrote:
    >
    >I want to make a site that is consistant throughout all the pages. By this
    >I mean I want a uniform top and side where I can have a banner and a navigation
    >bar. I looked at using templates, but once you make the template and start
    >using it then if you wanted to make a change to lets say the table size

    of
    >your navigation bar then you have to do it for each page.
    >
    >What I want to be able to do is make a page using tables. Then make all
    >my page using these tables and the way they are sized and formated. Then
    >if I want to make a change to lets say a table size of my navigation bar
    >then I would like to only have to do it in one place and all the pages would
    >change.
    >
    >Is there a way to do this? Or is this still a pipe dream?



  6. #6
    Graham Guest

    Re: How to make consistant site


    Hi There
    I think Templates must be the way to go to achive the consistent look and
    feel throughout your site.
    If you are using a dev tool like Dreamweaver you can find out about templates
    with help or from the macromedia web site...

    Best of Luck


    Graham

  7. #7
    sci-fi / Diego Guest

    Re: How to make consistant site


    Hi,

    The Dreamweaver templates are sometimes useful, but I decide to stop using
    them. I designed three sites with Dreamweaver templates, and have three different
    problems for each site. The result was that I had to waste the same time
    resolving these problems that I if had to rewrite each page for the sites.
    I canīt describe you the problems, and they arenīt so simple to explain.
    For the first you could say that I did not know how to use the program; but
    not for the other two . The thing is that this is a "propietary" solution
    and as such it would always give you trouble. You will always have problems
    since the templates must be in a subfolder named "templates", so, you must
    keep this in mind for your behaviors or the javascript code yourīre writing,
    and the links to other pages and the other elements like images and rollover
    images, etc..., because it changes the root directory of the page, since
    the pages and their templates have different "paths" or "Urls". And if you
    add some extra sections to the layout of the template, like cells, some of
    the content of the pages linked to that DW template will be lost, not added,
    or so, when doing the "actualization" of the pages -in other words, make
    the pages reflect the changes made to their template.

    So, now I use templates, but with my own "propietary solution". I prefer
    to expend some tedious time "copying and pasting" the html content for a
    couple of templates (one for the principal pages, one for the inner ones)
    I defined and saved as .html files, with no content except for that fixed,
    and the layout and brief instructions pointing "text here", etc. I keep the
    content, text, mainly, separated in other, rather "plain" html files, and
    merge them with the templates, with a simple copy and past. Then I save the
    template as a separate file with another name. If you do so you must have
    backups for the templates, in case you get distracted and re-write the file.
    For all things that I could use CSS, I do so. I do a change to a separate
    CSS file in seconds and the site in its entirity changes! In the future I
    have other plans (since I canīt do automatic actualization for content troughout
    the site), but this and the use of more and more features of CSS is the way
    I prefer.

    Sorry if I made this message to long to read, but I think this is a main
    problem when planning a site...



  8. #8
    dale bieker Guest

    Re: How to make consistant site


    Actually Kevin, you can do this.
    We were able to pull this off in a productional environment with a limited
    number of users. What you need to do is to use a single page(or group of
    pages) as a framework for all your pages. This key set of pages would then
    access a DB to extract control records that define everything in your set
    of pages. Every Button, menu item, link, DB query, etc that you want displayed
    can be placed in control table(s) to define the functionality of your set
    of pages. We stripped all the fluff out of the app. No graphics.
    We dealt strictly with DB records, the navigation through the records, including
    explodes, and the formatting of the records for display to the user.
    We used ASP for this projec, but any of the technologies that are able to
    generate HTML based on logic such as JSP or servlets should work. Not exactly
    MVC but pretty cool once it was completed.
    It got a little more complex then what was fully anticipated, but it was
    well worth the work. We realized a HUGE reduction in the base code set.
    AND had a definite benefit of being able to create future applications without
    having to write any code.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    "Kevin" <kevin@wyport.com> wrote:
    >
    >What you could do is create an .asp page and then usse the Server.Execute(page.asp)
    >to insert a header page at the top of a page or a navigation page. Works
    >great this way you will only have the one page to maintain and have it change
    >everything on all your pages.
    >
    >"tibbs" <tibbs14@telocity.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>I want to make a site that is consistant throughout all the pages. By

    this
    >>I mean I want a uniform top and side where I can have a banner and a navigation
    >>bar. I looked at using templates, but once you make the template and start
    >>using it then if you wanted to make a change to lets say the table size

    >of
    >>your navigation bar then you have to do it for each page.
    >>
    >>What I want to be able to do is make a page using tables. Then make all
    >>my page using these tables and the way they are sized and formated. Then
    >>if I want to make a change to lets say a table size of my navigation bar
    >>then I would like to only have to do it in one place and all the pages

    would
    >>change.
    >>
    >>Is there a way to do this? Or is this still a pipe dream?

    >



  9. #9
    Dave Guest

    Re: How to make consistant site


    "Graham" <graham@digitalfresh.co.uk> wrote:
    >
    >Hi There
    > I think Templates must be the way to go to achive the consistent look and
    >feel throughout your site.
    >If you are using a dev tool like Dreamweaver you can find out about templates
    >with help or from the macromedia web site...
    >
    >Best of Luck
    >
    >
    >Graham



  10. #10
    Dave Guest

    Re: How to make consistant site


    "Graham" <graham@digitalfresh.co.uk> wrote:
    >
    >Hi There
    > I think Templates must be the way to go to achive the consistent look and
    >feel throughout your site.
    >If you are using a dev tool like Dreamweaver you can find out about templates
    >with help or from the macromedia web site...
    >
    >Best of Luck
    >
    >
    >Graham


    Why won't DHTML function in Netscape 6.2, it works in explorer.
    Dave

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