Session state, cookieless, release date questions

[Ariel]

firstly, i'd like to thank those of you who have answered my session state
questions for being patient as i slowly refine and finalize my questions.

1. what is the actual target date for a release version for NGWS?

2. how do i use the SQL SERVER state plugin? where do i install it from ?
etc.

3. can i use the cookieless option without ASP+ munging the sessionid into
the URL (let's say i would place the sessionid in a hidden field) ?

4. will the protocol used by the ASP State service (or the SQL SERVER state
pluginn) be public? will the service be configurable? will features like
writing the data into a different repository be supported?

5. my current understanding of persisting data objects in session state management
in ASP+ is that all objects implementing the ISerializable interface that
are "inserted" to the session object will be persisted implicitly.
let's assume that i have my own object obj that have its own persist and
unpersist functions. can someone send me a COM sample of implementing ISerializable
for obj?

thanks
ariel

[Robert Scoble]

> 1. what is the actual target date for a release version for NGWS?

NGWS is not a term being used anymore (and is too vague to really be sure
what you are asking for).

The .NET Frameworks SDK (which includes the Common Language Runtime, ASP+,
and the compiler that lets you run C# code) is now in "pre-beta" and
available to MSDN Univeral and Professional subscribers. It will be
available to the public in the next week or two (at least the PDC bits will
be).

I don't expect to see a released version before the end of the year, but I
haven't heard any "official guesses" from Microsoft, so who knows?

Visual Studio.NET (which is not included in the .NET Frameworks SDK) has
been released in a pre-beta state to just the PDC attendees. We expect a
beta to start for both Visual Studio.NET and the .NET Frameworks SDK in the
third quarter of 2000 (at least that's what Microsoft has been saying
publicly lately).

I don't think we'll be able to buy Visual Studio.NET before June of next
year, but that's just my guess.

We're hoping that Microsoft ships the .NET Frameworks SDK sooner than that,
but no one really knows Microsofts plans for any of this.

Check http://www.devx.com/free/press/2000/...sresources.asp for more
information. As soon as Microsoft releases more information, we'll make it
public there.

I'll let the experts answer the rest of the questions here.

Thanks!

Robert Scoble
http://www.vslive.com <<-- The Fall's Largest Visual Studio Conference

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[Chris Kinsman]

"Ariel" <arielazia@earthling.net> wrote in message
news:398e6f33$1@news.devx.com...
>
> firstly, i'd like to thank those of you who have answered my session state
> questions for being patient as i slowly refine and finalize my questions.
>
> 1. what is the actual target date for a release version for NGWS?
>
Not announced that I know of.

> 2. how do i use the SQL SERVER state plugin? where do i install it from ?
> etc.
No plugin. Just change some settings in config.web and start the service I
believe.

>
> 3. can i use the cookieless option without ASP+ munging the sessionid into
> the URL (let's say i would place the sessionid in a hidden field) ?
Nope. Not all pages have forms to use hidden fields.

>
> 4. will the protocol used by the ASP State service (or the SQL SERVER
state
> pluginn) be public? will the service be configurable? will features like
> writing the data into a different repository be supported?
Supposedly in memory out of proc and SQL Server are the only two supported
stores. Although the Session() object is obviously now replaceable so you
could replace it with any other store. Say sa-session by Software Artisans.

>
> 5. my current understanding of persisting data objects in session state
management
> in ASP+ is that all objects implementing the ISerializable interface that
> are "inserted" to the session object will be persisted implicitly.
> let's assume that i have my own object obj that have its own persist and
> unpersist functions. can someone send me a COM sample of implementing
ISerializable
> for obj?
Have yet to see an example myself.

>
> thanks
> ariel