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  1. #1
    Cindy Winegarden Guest

    VFP8 to be made available for download

    Posted by Ken Levy to the ProFox list:
    --------
    The VFP OLEDB provider update beta will be available on or before Monday
    11/4. Stay tuned for a posting here and on http://foxcentral.net when it is
    live online for download.
    In addition, I have some good news for everyone. Based on the demand for the
    VFP 8.0 beta and also the importance of making the beta available to MSDN
    Subscription customers well, I was able to have the entire VFP 8.0 beta be
    made available on the Microsoft MSDN web site as a world wide free public
    beta for anyone (not just VFP developers) to download and use until we
    release VFP 8.0 the first quarter of next year.
    The updated VFP OLE DB provider will be slightly updated over the version
    included in the VFP 8.0 beta, so downloading both will be recommended. The
    VFP 8.0 beta will be available online early next week for anyone in the
    world to freely download and use. When it is available live, a news item
    will be posted at http://foxcentral.net with a link. I hope everyone agrees
    this is great for VFP 8.0. This is the first time any version of FoxPro has
    been made a public beta for anyone to freely obtain.

    Ken Levy
    Visual FoxPro Product Manager
    Microsoft
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro
    http://foxcentral.net
    --

    Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
    cindy.winegarden@mvps.org http://cindywinegarden.adsl.duke.edu
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro http://foxcentral.net




  2. #2
    Rick Bean Guest

    Re: VFP8 to be made available for download

    Cindy,
    I've passed this along to my local user group, along with the following -
    any additional comments?

    Rick

    Just so you aren't disappointed with all the "unstated" parts of this
    announcement - especially for those who have never worked with a VFP Beta:

    1) The Developer's install is only designed for Win2000 SP2+ and WinXP - no
    Win9x or NT! (Don't bother downloading it if you don't have the hardware or
    software to support it.) While VFP 8.0 may be the first, it's not the last
    to have these kind of requirements -
    http://news.com.com/2100-1001-963777...g=fd_lede1_hed (Office 11 beta)

    2) The VFP 8.0 runtimes will run on all 32-bit Windows EXCEPT Win95.

    3) This code will expire - I haven't seen an official date yet, but I'd
    guess sometime early next year.

    4) While you won't be able to submit "problems" (and there are a few) to the
    Beta team directly, you will be able to submit them to the normal VFP "Bug
    Reporting" page -
    http://support.microsoft.com/default...o/report/repor
    t.asp.

    5) While the 8.0 Beta runs fine with any other versions of VFP you may have
    installed (as long as it's in a different directory and you don't try to
    share resource files), note that it will grab all the default behaviours for
    the VFP file extensions, and change many of these "icons" in explorer.

    6) Remember it is a BETA - somethings don't work, or work right, or may act
    differently when the real product comes out. The Help file is incomplete and
    has some bad links. It may run slower - especially in areas where they have
    left debug code in/on.

    7) Finally, make sure you have good backups of any projects you try to run
    under VFP 8.0, depending on the features you try, you may find some
    components (menus and DBCs come to mind) that won't be able to be used by
    earlier versions after they've been "upgraded"!

    Rick

    "Cindy Winegarden" <cindy.winegarden@mvps.org> wrote in message
    news:3dc4218a$1@tnews.web.devx.com...
    > Posted by Ken Levy to the ProFox list:
    > --------
    > The VFP OLEDB provider update beta will be available on or before Monday
    > 11/4. Stay tuned for a posting here and on http://foxcentral.net when it

    is
    > live online for download.
    > In addition, I have some good news for everyone. Based on the demand for

    the
    > VFP 8.0 beta and also the importance of making the beta available to MSDN
    > Subscription customers well, I was able to have the entire VFP 8.0 beta be
    > made available on the Microsoft MSDN web site as a world wide free public
    > beta for anyone (not just VFP developers) to download and use until we
    > release VFP 8.0 the first quarter of next year.
    > The updated VFP OLE DB provider will be slightly updated over the version
    > included in the VFP 8.0 beta, so downloading both will be recommended. The
    > VFP 8.0 beta will be available online early next week for anyone in the
    > world to freely download and use. When it is available live, a news item
    > will be posted at http://foxcentral.net with a link. I hope everyone

    agrees
    > this is great for VFP 8.0. This is the first time any version of FoxPro

    has
    > been made a public beta for anyone to freely obtain.
    >
    > Ken Levy
    > Visual FoxPro Product Manager
    > Microsoft
    > http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro
    > http://foxcentral.net
    > --
    >
    > Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
    > cindy.winegarden@mvps.org http://cindywinegarden.adsl.duke.edu
    > http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro http://foxcentral.net
    >
    >
    >




  3. #3
    Joe \Nuke Me Xemu\ Foster Guest

    Re: VFP8 to be made available for download

    "Rick Bean" <rgbean@NOSPAMmelange-inc.com> wrote in message <news:3dc58ba3$1@tnews.web.devx.com>...

    > Cindy,
    > I've passed this along to my local user group, along with the following -
    > any additional comments?
    >
    > Rick
    >
    > Just so you aren't disappointed with all the "unstated" parts of this
    > announcement - especially for those who have never worked with a VFP Beta:
    >
    > 1) The Developer's install is only designed for Win2000 SP2+ and WinXP - no
    > Win9x or NT! (Don't bother downloading it if you don't have the hardware or
    > software to support it.) While VFP 8.0 may be the first, it's not the last
    > to have these kind of requirements -
    > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-963777...g=fd_lede1_hed (Office 11 beta)


    They really are serious about forcing corporate customers to "upgrade"
    their OS installs, aren't they.

    > 2) The VFP 8.0 runtimes will run on all 32-bit Windows EXCEPT Win95.


    Sounds like .NET... Has VFP been assimilated? Resistance is futile.

    --
    Joe Foster <mailto:jlfoster%40znet.com> Sign the Check! <http://www.xenu.net/>
    WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above They're coming to
    because my cats have apparently learned to type. take me away, ha ha!



  4. #4
    CindyWinegarden Guest

    Re: VFP8 to be made available for download

    "Joe "Nuke Me Xemu" Foster" <joe@bftsi0.UUCP> wrote in message

    > > 1) The Developer's install is only designed for Win2000 SP2+ and WinXP -

    no
    > > Win9x or NT!

    >
    > They really are serious about forcing corporate customers to "upgrade"
    > their OS installs, aren't they.


    The Developer's install is "not supported" on the earlier Ross. That doesn't
    mean it won't run. I've seen reports of VFP8 Beta running on WinNT4 and
    Win98. It just means that you may or may not have problems and they won't
    help you if you do.

    --
    Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
    cindy.winegarden@mvps.org http://cindywinegarden.adsl.duke.edu
    http://mdsn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro http://foxcentral.net




  5. #5
    CindyWinegarden Guest

    Re: VFP8 to be made available for download

    Darn spell-check. Should be "on the earlier OSs."

    --
    Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
    cindy.winegarden@mvps.org http://cindywinegarden.adsl.duke.edu
    http://mdsn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro http://foxcentral.net

    "CindyWinegarden" <cindy.winegarden@mvps.org> wrote in message
    news:3e2975e7$1@tnews.web.devx.com...
    > "Joe "Nuke Me Xemu" Foster" <joe@bftsi0.UUCP> wrote in message
    >
    > > > 1) The Developer's install is only designed for Win2000 SP2+ and

    WinXP -
    > no
    > > > Win9x or NT!

    > >
    > > They really are serious about forcing corporate customers to "upgrade"
    > > their OS installs, aren't they.

    >
    > The Developer's install is "not supported" on the earlier Ross. That

    doesn't
    > mean it won't run. I've seen reports of VFP8 Beta running on WinNT4 and
    > Win98. It just means that you may or may not have problems and they won't
    > help you if you do.
    >
    > --
    > Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
    > cindy.winegarden@mvps.org http://cindywinegarden.adsl.duke.edu
    > http://mdsn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro http://foxcentral.net
    >
    >
    >




  6. #6
    Kenn Leland Guest

    Re: VFP8 to be made available for download


    I tried the official installer of the VFP 8 beta on a Win 98 machine and was
    told by the installer that the installation had failed. I then copied out
    the 60 MB directory labeled "M$ Visual FoxPro 8.0" and set it up as a folder
    in the program file directory. I then had a working copy of VFP 8 on the
    Win 98 machine. I then discovered that the failed official installation
    installed required DLLs. Havingf done this I was able to install on another
    Win 98 machine. Since there is another 100 or 200 MB to the beta, this installation
    is missinb some handy features. Fortunately my primary installation is an
    XP mnachine, so eventually I will find out what this extra code does.

    8"CindyWinegarden" <cindy.winegarden@mvps.org> wrote:
    >Darn spell-check. Should be "on the earlier OSs."
    >
    >--
    >Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
    >cindy.winegarden@mvps.org http://cindywinegarden.adsl.duke.edu
    >http://mdsn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro http://foxcentral.net
    >
    >"CindyWinegarden" <cindy.winegarden@mvps.org> wrote in message
    >news:3e2975e7$1@tnews.web.devx.com...
    >> "Joe "Nuke Me Xemu" Foster" <joe@bftsi0.UUCP> wrote in message
    >>
    >> > > 1) The Developer's install is only designed for Win2000 SP2+ and

    >WinXP -
    >> no
    >> > > Win9x or NT!
    >> >
    >> > They really are serious about forcing corporate customers to "upgrade"
    >> > their OS installs, aren't they.

    >>
    >> The Developer's install is "not supported" on the earlier Ross. That

    >doesn't
    >> mean it won't run. I've seen reports of VFP8 Beta running on WinNT4 and
    >> Win98. It just means that you may or may not have problems and they won't
    >> help you if you do.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
    >> cindy.winegarden@mvps.org http://cindywinegarden.adsl.duke.edu
    >> http://mdsn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro http://foxcentral.net
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >



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