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    Guest

    Design must not be that interesting a topic

    I was kind of hoping to see a bit more discussion here, but things kinda
    died down.

    Maybe that's a sign that nobodies bothering to design anything anymore<g>

    Ah back to the glory days. I loved rogue coding!



  2. #2
    Joe \Nuke Me Xemu\ Foster Guest

    Re: Design must not be that interesting a topic

    <Darin> wrote in message <news:3ae25204$1@news.devx.com>...

    > I was kind of hoping to see a bit more discussion here, but things kinda
    > died down.
    >
    > Maybe that's a sign that nobodies bothering to design anything anymore<g>


    I think it's a sign that language and other considerations have a rather
    large impact on design, to the point that the design discussions tend to
    take place in the language- and database-specific newsgroups. For example,
    Alan "Father of Visual Basic" Cooper waxes poetic about the joys of drag-
    and-drop, but most languages make this difficult to get right, and even if
    I do, users who were never video-game junkies have trouble with it, unless
    I do something nutty like fiddle with the mouse sensitivity when a drag is
    in progress! Also, VB Classic's object cleanup policies encouraged the use
    of resource-management classes, but VB.NyET's "garbage collection" scheme
    makes the use of anything but "lightweight" classes Trouble.

    > Ah back to the glory days. I loved rogue coding!


    Maybe, but perhaps my experience was tempered by a "you write it, you get
    to maintain it" policy. Real Programmers don't have separate testing and
    maintenance teams!

    --
    Joe Foster <mailto:jfoster@ricochet.net> "Regged" again? <http://www.xenu.net/>
    WARNING: I cannot be held responsible for the above They're coming to
    because my cats have apparently learned to type. take me away, ha ha!



  3. #3
    Guest

    Re: Design must not be that interesting a topic

    > Maybe, but perhaps my experience was tempered by a "you write it, you get
    > to maintain it" policy. Real Programmers don't have separate testing and
    > maintenance teams!


    Too true. There are a few things to like coming out of MS. VB6 had it's good
    spots and rough spots. ADO, even with it's peculiarities, is lots better
    than coding direct to ODBC.

    The scripting engine can be embedded into a VB app without much work and it
    just plain works.

    And the last time I checked, their MSXML dll was basically standalone (as
    long as you stayed away from the HTTP parts).

    But the best code is that that YOU write and that YOU own. It may not be
    perfect, but you can read it, debug it and make it better.



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