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  1. #1
    =?iso-8859-1?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?= Guest

    2003 Salary Survey

    I've been a subscriber to Visual Studio magazine since it was called BASIC
    Pro, and I've never been included in their salary surveys. I don't think
    they had them when they were BASIC Pro, but certainly since they were VB
    Pro. Do they survey the exact same people every year, or is there some kind
    of conspiracy to keep me out of the survey? I imagine that if my salary was
    figured into the averages, it would drop the bar considerably.

    Looking at where I fit in under each category, I make less than every single
    average, even the worst-case scenarios.

    My salary: $40,000/year no benefits whatsoever.

    Averages that I fall under:

    Area: Southeast - $72,109

    Certification: Not covered - only MCP so far, working on MCSD.

    Language Used: VB 6.0 - $72,461

    Type of Development: Design and Architecture of Apps - $78,721

    Job Type: Programmer/developer for software company - $68,354

    Degree Type: 2-year Degree - $71,633

    Age: 40-44 (44) - $84,139

    Years of Experience: 12+ (21) $90,932

    I need to leave Florida and get a decent job somewhere... :-)


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  2. #2
    Phil Weber Guest

    Re: 2003 Salary Survey

    > My salary: $40,000/year no benefits whatsoever...
    > I need to leave Florida and get a decent job somewhere... :-)


    Yikes! Yes, you do. ;-)

    Also, if your intent was to provide feedback to the editors of Visual Studio
    Magazine, you should post this message to the "Talk to the Editors of Visual
    Studio Magazine" discussion group at
    http://www.fawcette.com/discuss/forum.aspx?id=4
    --
    Phil Weber


  3. #3
    Russell Jones Guest

    Re: 2003 Salary Survey

    It's my impression from many years of reading such things that most salary
    survey figures tend to be inflated in *every* industry. Don't take them to
    heart. There will always be people who make more than you do. Many of them
    probably know and do less. Instead, the question you should ask yourself is
    whether you like your job. If you do, that's worth far more than a salary
    increase, in my opinion. Nonetheless, your salary does seem low.

    BTW: I'm also quite sure that a fair percentage of the people who were
    surveyed would be glad to have *any* job right now. Test the job market
    before you quit your job.

    Here's the result of another salary survey that seems a little more
    realistic to me. They're from 2000, not 2003, but I seriously doubt that
    many programmer salaries have increased dramatically in that period.
    http://www.pinnaclepublishing.com/admin.nsf/(lookupsurvey)/VB!open

    So you can get a better perspective, here's a link to the Fawcette salary
    survey from the same year:
    http://careerlink.devx.com/articles/ss0200/ss0200-1.asp


    "FrisbeeŽ MCNGP" <bhileman@dasi-software.com> wrote in message
    news:3eca7859$1@tnews.web.devx.com...
    > I've been a subscriber to Visual Studio magazine since it was called BASIC
    > Pro, and I've never been included in their salary surveys. I don't think
    > they had them when they were BASIC Pro, but certainly since they were VB
    > Pro. Do they survey the exact same people every year, or is there some

    kind
    > of conspiracy to keep me out of the survey? I imagine that if my salary

    was
    > figured into the averages, it would drop the bar considerably.
    >
    > Looking at where I fit in under each category, I make less than every

    single
    > average, even the worst-case scenarios.
    >
    > My salary: $40,000/year no benefits whatsoever.
    >
    > Averages that I fall under:
    >
    > Area: Southeast - $72,109
    >
    > Certification: Not covered - only MCP so far, working on MCSD.
    >
    > Language Used: VB 6.0 - $72,461
    >
    > Type of Development: Design and Architecture of Apps - $78,721
    >
    > Job Type: Programmer/developer for software company - $68,354
    >
    > Degree Type: 2-year Degree - $71,633
    >
    > Age: 40-44 (44) - $84,139
    >
    > Years of Experience: 12+ (21) $90,932
    >
    > I need to leave Florida and get a decent job somewhere... :-)
    >
    >
    > --
    > Fris "Anyone hiring?" beeŽ MCNGP #13
    >
    > http://www.mcngp.tk
    > The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
    >




  4. #4
    Kent Guest

    Re: 2003 Salary Survey


    Time to pick up some new skills.

    From what I'm hearing from our HR department, the value of a degree in computer
    science is worth more these days to people entering the job market.

    The market right now is flooded with VB programmers who have been laid off,
    therefore new jobs do not pay as much due to the high supply of VB programmers.
    In general though I think salaries are down.

    You should sharpen your skill set with technologies that are in demand.
    Do some research and check your local classified ads to find out what pays
    well in your area.

    Money isn't everything, but you deserve your share!

    =?iso-8859-1?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?= <bhileman@dasi-software.com> wrote:
    >I've been a subscriber to Visual Studio magazine since it was called BASIC
    >Pro, and I've never been included in their salary surveys. I don't think
    >they had them when they were BASIC Pro, but certainly since they were VB
    >Pro. Do they survey the exact same people every year, or is there some

    kind
    >of conspiracy to keep me out of the survey? I imagine that if my salary

    was
    >figured into the averages, it would drop the bar considerably.
    >
    >Looking at where I fit in under each category, I make less than every single
    >average, even the worst-case scenarios.
    >
    >My salary: $40,000/year no benefits whatsoever.
    >
    >Averages that I fall under:
    >
    >Area: Southeast - $72,109
    >
    >Certification: Not covered - only MCP so far, working on MCSD.
    >
    >Language Used: VB 6.0 - $72,461
    >
    >Type of Development: Design and Architecture of Apps - $78,721
    >
    >Job Type: Programmer/developer for software company - $68,354
    >
    >Degree Type: 2-year Degree - $71,633
    >
    >Age: 40-44 (44) - $84,139
    >
    >Years of Experience: 12+ (21) $90,932
    >
    >I need to leave Florida and get a decent job somewhere... :-)
    >
    >
    >--
    >Fris "Anyone hiring?" beeŽ MCNGP #13
    >
    >http://www.mcngp.tk
    >The MCNGP Team - We're here to help
    >



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