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Thread: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric

  1. #151
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric

    On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:49:36 -0400, "Richard Curzon"
    <rcurzon@spamcop.net> wrote:

    >Just cuz I'm not the greatest at fixing brakes, I don't go running to the
    >repair shop. If you're stud enough to handle the crashes, guess I should be
    >too. <g>.


    Tell me, does America have vehicle annual roadworthiness tests, like
    our MOT or the Germans' TÜV? U.S. movies often depict hillbilly types
    in their jalopies or students in *their* jalopies, and I've often
    wondered how these vehicles could ever be legal.

    MM

  2. #152
    Zane Thomas Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric

    On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:52:46 GMT, kylix_is@hotmail.com (Mike Mitchell)
    wrote:

    >>Well I hope no one sells you a gun then, because they would obviously be
    >>encouraging you to shoot yourself in the foot.

    >
    >Without a gun you wouldn't be able to. That's why we've banned guns
    >for all except the police, farmers, and the Irish.


    I hope they take away your cars too, a car which can be driven into a wall
    is - by your 'reasoning' - an encouragement to do so.


    --
    The nice thing about standards is that
    there are so many of them to choose from.

  3. #153
    Rob Teixeira Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric


    kylix_is@hotmail.com (Mike Mitchell) wrote:
    >On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:53:56 GMT, zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:
    >
    >>Well I hope no one sells you a gun then, because they would obviously be
    >>encouraging you to shoot yourself in the foot.

    >
    >Without a gun you wouldn't be able to. That's why we've banned guns
    >for all except the police, farmers, and the Irish.
    >
    >MM


    I hear knives and other bladed utilities are pretty dangerous too. Last time
    I was in London, someone was stabbed to death in park about 500 meters from
    my hotel. You guys gonna ban those too?
    Oh, then there's heavy blunted objects...


    -Rob

  4. #154
    Ed Courtenay Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric

    If we banned "heavy, blunted objects" would that mean that we could ban
    Mike? <bg>

    --
    Ed Courtenay
    http://www.edcourtenay.co.uk

    "We've all heard that a million monkeys on a million
    keyboards would eventually come up with the entire
    works of Shakespeare - thanks to the Internet, we now
    know this isn't true...."


    "Rob Teixeira" <RobTeixeira@@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:3b66ad99$1@news.devx.com...
    >
    > kylix_is@hotmail.com (Mike Mitchell) wrote:
    > >On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:53:56 GMT, zane@mabry.com (Zane Thomas) wrote:
    > >
    > >>Well I hope no one sells you a gun then, because they would obviously be
    > >>encouraging you to shoot yourself in the foot.

    > >
    > >Without a gun you wouldn't be able to. That's why we've banned guns
    > >for all except the police, farmers, and the Irish.
    > >
    > >MM

    >
    > I hear knives and other bladed utilities are pretty dangerous too. Last

    time
    > I was in London, someone was stabbed to death in park about 500 meters

    from
    > my hotel. You guys gonna ban those too?
    > Oh, then there's heavy blunted objects...
    >
    >
    > -Rob




  5. #155
    Richard Curzon Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric

    OT>OT>OT>OT>

    Actually I'm Canadian. No annual road fitness test here, just on change of
    ownership. Scheduled testing is for emissions, based on age of the car
    every few years. Still, I think you can be pulled over for driving an
    unsafe vehicle, and the vehicle impounded.

    regards
    Richard

    --
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    Live without dead time - Raoul Vaneigem
    May I borrow your towel, my car just hit a water buffalo - Chevy Chase



  6. #156
    Bob O`Bob Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric

    Mike Mitchell wrote:

    > Tell me, does America have vehicle annual roadworthiness tests, like
    > our MOT or the Germans' TÜV? U.S. movies often depict hillbilly types
    > in their jalopies or students in *their* jalopies, and I've often


    It's left up to the states. A few do have annual safety inspections
    (Texas did when I was there), a few require it on transfer of ownership,
    and some just don't.

    California's Highway Patrol used to conduct "random" roadside safety
    inspections, but I think someone managed to get that practice discontinued
    for being "discriminatory" in some way.



    Bob
    --

  7. #157
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric

    On 31 Jul 2001 06:07:37 -0700, "Rob Teixeira" <RobTeixeira@@msn.com>
    wrote:

    >I hear knives and other bladed utilities are pretty dangerous too. Last time
    >I was in London, someone was stabbed to death in park about 500 meters from
    >my hotel. You guys gonna ban those too?
    >Oh, then there's heavy blunted objects...


    .....while in good ole US of A, schoolchildren regularly assassinate
    each other for kicks!

    MM

  8. #158
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric

    On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:29:38 +0100, "Ed Courtenay"
    <ed@edcourtenay.co.uk> wrote:

    >If we banned "heavy, blunted objects" would that mean that we could ban
    >Mike? <bg>


    Heavy, I'll grant you, blunted, probably, after so many years on this
    ball of crud, but object, no, never will I agree to being one of
    those!

    MM

  9. #159
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric

    On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:30:23 +0100, "Ed Courtenay"
    <ed@edcourtenay.co.uk> wrote:

    >You don't like VB.NET. Fine. Don't use it. Stick with VB Classic. But if
    >you're going to hang around this NG, can you at least try to exercise your
    >brain cell and accept that some of us actually want full OOP.


    You may use OOP all you wish. My beef is with those who insist there
    IS no other way. For anything.

    MM

  10. #160
    Ted Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric


    kylix_is@hotmail.com (Mike Mitchell) wrote:
    >On 31 Jul 2001 06:07:37 -0700, "Rob Teixeira" <RobTeixeira@@msn.com>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>I hear knives and other bladed utilities are pretty dangerous too. Last

    time
    >>I was in London, someone was stabbed to death in park about 500 meters

    from
    >>my hotel. You guys gonna ban those too?
    >>Oh, then there's heavy blunted objects...

    >
    >.....while in good ole US of A, schoolchildren regularly assassinate
    >each other for kicks!
    >
    >MM


    You know Mike, I may be a pain in the *** but that is totally uncalled for.
    As a matter of fact you need to stop. Move on to other topics because that
    topic is something that most in the USA take pretty seriously and don't see
    it a comedic. Enough.

  11. #161
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric

    On 2 Aug 2001 14:55:37 -0700, "Ted" <TTarney@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >You know Mike, I may be a pain in the *** but that is totally uncalled for.
    > As a matter of fact you need to stop. Move on to other topics because that
    >topic is something that most in the USA take pretty seriously and don't see
    >it a comedic. Enough.


    Yeah, the truth hurts, darn it! Tell your National Rifle Association
    to take the killings a bit more seriously and stop advocating and
    evangelising the gun culture, and then maybe I'll start listening.

    MM

  12. #162
    Ted Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric


    kylix_is@hotmail.com (Mike Mitchell) wrote:
    >On 2 Aug 2001 14:55:37 -0700, "Ted" <TTarney@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >>You know Mike, I may be a pain in the *** but that is totally uncalled

    for.
    >> As a matter of fact you need to stop. Move on to other topics because

    that
    >>topic is something that most in the USA take pretty seriously and don't

    see
    >>it a comedic. Enough.

    >
    >Yeah, the truth hurts, darn it! Tell your National Rifle Association
    >to take the killings a bit more seriously and stop advocating and
    >evangelising the gun culture, and then maybe I'll start listening.
    >
    >MM


    Tell me what you know about the NRA. Considering I am a member and I know
    what the NRA does and stands for, you are full of crap. And I really don't
    care if you're listening or not.


  13. #163
    Jeff Johnson Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric


    Mike--

    We've had guns as an integral part of American freedom from the get go.
    (See the Bill of Rights.) The recent spate of senseless violence should
    have been going on for A LOT longer if it was caused by our "evangelizing
    of gun culture."

    As programmers we should know that "garbage in; garbage out" is a fundamental
    principle that applies not only to systems but to people as well. The things
    that have changed the most in the past 200 years for Americans are not the
    presence or absence of guns-- what's changed is the kind of garbage that
    we as a society have begun "programming" into our children (and the fact
    that children have drastically lower chances of growing up in stable two-parent
    households....)

    If we continue to allow our children grow up outside of the influence of
    Principled adults AND if continue pumping them full of Post-Modernistic Moral-Relativistic
    Nihilistic crap, we can expect continued bad consequences.




    "Ted" <TTarney@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >kylix_is@hotmail.com (Mike Mitchell) wrote:
    >>On 2 Aug 2001 14:55:37 -0700, "Ted" <TTarney@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>>You know Mike, I may be a pain in the *** but that is totally uncalled

    >for.
    >>> As a matter of fact you need to stop. Move on to other topics because

    >that
    >>>topic is something that most in the USA take pretty seriously and don't

    >see
    >>>it a comedic. Enough.

    >>
    >>Yeah, the truth hurts, darn it! Tell your National Rifle Association
    >>to take the killings a bit more seriously and stop advocating and
    >>evangelising the gun culture, and then maybe I'll start listening.
    >>
    >>MM

    >
    >Tell me what you know about the NRA. Considering I am a member and I know
    >what the NRA does and stands for, you are full of crap. And I really don't
    >care if you're listening or not.
    >



  14. #164
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric

    On 4 Aug 2001 09:13:17 -0700, "Ted" <TTarney@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >Tell me what you know about the NRA. Considering I am a member and I know
    >what the NRA does and stands for, you are full of crap. And I really don't
    >care if you're listening or not.


    Kind of figures that you're a member. Over here, you'd be banned.

    MM

  15. #165
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: Why C++ is Annoyingly Esoteric

    On 4 Aug 2001 14:21:27 -0700, "Jeff Johnson" <johnsonjs@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    > If we continue to allow our children grow up outside of the influence of
    >Principled adults AND if continue pumping them full of Post-Modernistic Moral-Relativistic
    >Nihilistic crap, we can expect continued bad consequences.


    And, of course, taking away their easy access to guns would be a good
    start, don't you think?

    MM

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