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  1. #1
    Blob Guest

    Does anyone in this group know what they are doing


    Larry Serflaten
    http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/talk...ck_115481.html

    A machine operator who programs as a hobby? You are giving advice here?
    Man this stuff gets funnier and funnier every day. If that's what it takes
    to become a vb programmer, well nuff said.



  2. #2
    Jay Glynn Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing


    "Blob" <blob@blobblobblob.com> wrote:
    >
    >Larry Serflaten
    >http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/talk...ck_115481.html
    >
    >A machine operator who programs as a hobby? You are giving advice here?


    >Man this stuff gets funnier and funnier every day. If that's what it takes
    >to become a vb programmer, well nuff said.
    >
    >


    Well at least most here have the guts to post a real name and are not ashamed
    of who they are.


  3. #3
    Mike Mitchell Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing

    On 7 Oct 2002 11:34:29 -0700, "Blob" <blob@blobblobblob.com> wrote:

    >Larry Serflaten
    >http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/talk...ck_115481.html
    >
    >A machine operator who programs as a hobby? You are giving advice here?
    >Man this stuff gets funnier and funnier every day. If that's what it takes
    >to become a vb programmer, well nuff said.


    Blob, the reason why VB became the most widely used language EVER was
    exactly because machine operators, motor technicans, builders,
    farmers, office workers, teachers, other public employees and many,
    many more could utilise it after just a little exposure and maybe an
    evening class or two. Anyone with average intelligence could learn
    classic VB easily if they wanted to.

    So, if you didn't know this already, better call that IQ test centre
    right now! But beware! Machine operators probably have a head start on
    ya!

    MM

  4. #4
    John Butler Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing


    "Blob" <blob@blobblobblob.com> wrote in message
    news:3da1d3b5$1@10.1.10.29...
    >
    > Larry Serflaten
    > http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/talk...ck_115481.html
    >
    > A machine operator who programs as a hobby? You are giving advice here?
    > Man this stuff gets funnier and funnier every day. If that's what it

    takes
    > to become a vb programmer, well nuff said.


    Lousy try Troll

    Loose the anonimity, then maybe people will talk to you. Long as you hide
    behind an alias, you've got something to hide...or you're just trying to get
    a rise.....





  5. #5
    Larry Serflaten Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing


    "Blob" <blob@blobblobblob.com> wrote
    >
    > Larry Serflaten
    > http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/talk...ck_115481.html
    >
    > A machine operator who programs as a hobby? You are giving advice here?
    > Man this stuff gets funnier and funnier every day. If that's what it takes
    > to become a vb programmer, well nuff said.



    What were you doing in 1998? That's when that was posted. At that time
    I happend to be operating a computer controlled, million dollar (thereabouts)
    plastic extrusion machine. Did you expect I should lie?

    I also have a AA degree in Electronics where I specialized on the design and
    repair of computers. I got that degree in 1988. What were you doing in 1988?

    I wrote my first program around 1978 for the DEC PDP-8 while getting training
    in consumer product repair. They covered a wide spectrum, from fixing radios to
    TV, to Pinball machines and an introductory course on computers. What were
    you doing in 1978?

    Are you going to tell me you been doing one thing all your life?

    I bought my first computer in 1982, and in 1993 I started a company that
    creates software. Software, I might add, that is currently being sold by a
    national and world wide distributor.

    I am still president of that company, which I mention whenever I publish
    software for public use, and it is still a hobby. Examples of my work on
    planet-source-code, and GotDotNet, bear this out.

    I've passed the MS MCP exam for VB6 desktop applications, I've been
    a contributing author to a Sams Publishing book on VB programming, and
    have written several articles on programming, including almost two years
    worth of a monthly column about programming, in a local newsletter. Plus,
    I have at least tried to help others learn to use their computers as a productive
    tool by participating in newsgroups, helping to answer questions.

    What contributions have you made?

    I could likewise say that if programming was left only to those who obtained a
    4-year CS degree, this industry would be in a world of hurt.

    LFS




  6. #6
    pwilmarth Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing


    Shows you that you shouldn't pass judgement.

    Doesn't matter how many credentials you have, it's whether or not you can
    or will make the effort to do the job. Sounds like you have more real world
    experience than about 99% of the "degreed" folks.


  7. #7
    Patrick Meader Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing

    Hi Larry:

    >>to Pinball machines <<


    Now that's cool. Anything a former pinball junkie might have heard of?

    >>Examples of my work on planet-source-code, and GotDotNet, bear this out.

    <<

    I was curious: What do you have up on GotDotNet? More specifically, what are
    you using .NET to create? Searched for your name and came up empty.
    Doublechecked the spelling a couple times; I seemed to have it right.

    pat




  8. #8
    Larry Serflaten Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing

    "Patrick Meader" <pmeader@fawcette.com> wrote
    > I was curious: What do you have up on GotDotNet? More specifically, what are
    > you using .NET to create? Searched for your name and came up empty.
    > Doublechecked the spelling a couple times; I seemed to have it right.


    Here's a couple of links for ya...

    (A simple user control that displays the time)
    http://www.gotdotnet.com/userarea/fi...nalogClock.zip
    (A snapshot of the control with a few properties adjusted)
    http://www.usinternet.com/users/serf...nalogclock.gif
    (A Workspaces group I started)
    http://www.gotdotnet.com/Community/W...b-b5d2bc594fa7

    Eventually, I'd like to put together something like www.popcap.com.
    They use java to provide downloadable games that play in the browser (nothing
    to install). They've been at it a while and have several games for the net
    as well as the desktop.

    That "nothing to install" is what I was looking for, and a few years down the road
    that may be the case (IE or .Net required, however). I tried DHTML but it just isn't
    robust enough for what I want to do. With DirectX9 making it into managed
    code, that space should get pretty interesting very shortly....

    LFS












  9. #9
    Tim Hitchings \(Infragistics\) Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing

    Larry Serflaten wrote:
    > Eventually, I'd like to put together something like www.popcap.com.
    > They use java to provide downloadable games that play in the browser
    > (nothing to install). They've been at it a while and have several
    > games for the net as well as the desktop.


    Another good company is http://www.gamehouse.com
    I've noticed that popcap has a few times now, released a similar game
    shortly after gamehouse.




  10. #10
    Blob Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing


    "Jay Glynn" <jlsglynn@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >"Blob" <blob@blobblobblob.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>Larry Serflaten
    >>http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/talk...ck_115481.html
    >>
    >>A machine operator who programs as a hobby? You are giving advice here?

    >
    >>Man this stuff gets funnier and funnier every day. If that's what it takes
    >>to become a vb programmer, well nuff said.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >Well at least most here have the guts to post a real name and are not ashamed
    >of who they are.



    You've got nerve posting your name with that piece of crap "Introducing .NET"
    book you put out. I think you should refund the $35 I spent on it. It was
    worthless garbage. It actually took 10 of you write that great piece of
    literature? Man, I hope nobody was as stupid as I was.


  11. #11
    Blob Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing


    >Blob, the reason why VB became the most widely used language EVER was
    >exactly because machine operators, motor technicans, builders,
    >farmers, office workers, teachers, other public employees and many,
    >many more could utilise it after just a little exposure and maybe an
    >evening class or two. Anyone with average intelligence could learn
    >classic VB easily if they wanted to.


    Exactly my point. Computer Science has come to this? Oh, well, back to
    the pig pens.


    >So, if you didn't know this already, better call that IQ test centre
    >right now! But beware! Machine operators probably have a head start on
    >ya!


    Probably not.



  12. #12
    Blob Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing


    "John Butler" <nospamjrbutler@btinternet.com> wrote:
    >
    >"Blob" <blob@blobblobblob.com> wrote in message
    >news:3da1d3b5$1@10.1.10.29...
    >>
    >> Larry Serflaten
    >> http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/talk...ck_115481.html
    >>
    >> A machine operator who programs as a hobby? You are giving advice here?
    >> Man this stuff gets funnier and funnier every day. If that's what it

    >takes
    >> to become a vb programmer, well nuff said.

    >
    >Lousy try Troll
    >
    >Loose the anonimity, then maybe people will talk to you. Long as you hide
    >behind an alias, you've got something to hide...or you're just trying to

    get
    >a rise.....

    Now you've got it. I get a bigger fish every day.

  13. #13
    Jay Glynn Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing


    >>Well at least most here have the guts to post a real name and are not ashamed
    >>of who they are.

    >
    >
    >You've got nerve posting your name with that piece of crap "Introducing

    .NET"
    >book you put out. I think you should refund the $35 I spent on it. It

    was
    >worthless garbage. It actually took 10 of you write that great piece of
    >literature? Man, I hope nobody was as stupid as I was.
    >


    Last count there was about 15,000 of you. Thanks, I'm sure that I spent the
    $.40 that I earned from you on something worthwhile.
    You forgot to list the other books from your search. Here let me help you:

    Professional C# 2nd Edition ISBN:1861007043
    Professional Windows GUI Programming with C# ISBN:1861007663
    Data-Centric .NET Programming with C# ISBN:186100592X

    There's a couple of others that I worked on the development of but didn't
    contribute as an author, so I'll spare you the details.
    As far as your literary recommendations go, I couldn't care less since the
    check did cash ;-)

    You also seemed to have forgotten to post my bio. You seem to enjoy making
    fun of that as well. Here I'll help you along with that as well:

    http://www.jupiterevents.com/netdev/spring02/glynn.html




  14. #14
    Blob Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing


    >Last count there was about 15,000 of you. Thanks, I'm sure that I spent the
    >$.40 that I earned from you on something worthwhile.

    Ah, so there are 14,999 other dumbasses in the world. It seems I can't get
    the reviews for that garbage you wrote, but I recall how much it was embraced
    by the developer community(joke).


    >You forgot to list the other books from your search. Here let me help you:
    >
    >Professional C# 2nd Edition ISBN:1861007043

    How much more can you guys milk this one? Let's see, how many changes were
    there from edition 1 to edition 2 and now the beta 2 release? Man, you guys
    know how to sucker people. Not too mention, Simon pulled you guys from the
    picture(edition 2 anyway). Reasons?

    >Professional Windows GUI Programming with C# ISBN:1861007663

    I am running to get this one. It's only $23 so it must be pretty good.
    That's a joke.

    >Data-Centric .NET Programming with C# ISBN:186100592X

    Wow, the reviews on this one sucked.

    >There's a couple of others that I worked on the development of but didn't
    >contribute as an author, so I'll spare you the details.

    Thanks. It makes me cry knowing you are getting money from this crap.

    >As far as your literary recommendations go, I couldn't care less since the
    >check did cash ;-)

    That's what it's all about, huh? The check cashing? Hope you sleep well
    knowing you're ripping off so many people. They have one **** of a Cash-Cow
    over at Wrox. Since it appears Richard Grimes isn't writing for them any
    longer I will stay away. Besides, the DevelopMentor series books make yours
    look like childs play.

    >
    >You also seemed to have forgotten to post my bio. You seem to enjoy making
    >fun of that as well. Here I'll help you along with that as well:
    >
    >http://www.jupiterevents.com/netdev/spring02/glynn.html

    Woo, hoo. So have you done anything really worthwhile?

  15. #15
    Blob Guest

    Re: Does anyone in this group know what they are doing


    >What were you doing in 1998?

    If my recollection is correct, I believe it was writing a Transaction Processor
    for online banking software.

    That's when that was posted. At that time
    >I happend to be operating a computer controlled, million dollar (thereabouts)
    >plastic extrusion machine. Did you expect I should lie?
    >

    Of course not. That wouldn't be ethical.

    >I also have a AA degree in Electronics where I specialized on the design

    and
    >repair of computers. I got that degree in 1988. What were you doing in 1988?
    >


    Let's see, if my recollection is correct again, playing football at Fresno
    State University and majoring in underwater basket weaving.

    >I wrote my first program around 1978 for the DEC PDP-8 while getting training
    >in consumer product repair. They covered a wide spectrum, from fixing radios

    to
    >TV, to Pinball machines and an introductory course on computers. What were
    >you doing in 1978?

    Let's see, if my recollection is correct yet again, playing pop warner football
    in Torrance, California, hoping to be a policeman or fireman. Wow, you're
    old.

    >
    >Are you going to tell me you been doing one thing all your life?
    >
    >I bought my first computer in 1982, and in 1993 I started a company that
    >creates software. Software, I might add, that is currently being sold by

    a
    >national and world wide distributor.

    So, if you started a "software company" then why machine operator in 1998?
    Are you saying you ran a company but that wasn't enjoyable enough so you
    moonlighted on third shift as a machine operator?

    >I am still president of that company, which I mention whenever I publish
    >software for public use, and it is still a hobby. Examples of my work on
    >planet-source-code, and GotDotNet, bear this out.

    Some good beginner stuff I see.

    >
    >I've passed the MS MCP exam for VB6 desktop applications, I've been
    >a contributing author to a Sams Publishing book on VB programming, and
    >have written several articles on programming, including almost two years
    >worth of a monthly column about programming, in a local newsletter. Plus,
    >I have at least tried to help others learn to use their computers as a productive
    >tool by participating in newsgroups, helping to answer questions.


    Exams and certs mean nothing. I have seen some of the worst programmers
    certified in this and that but they "SUCK". Sams, well their stuff makes
    good camp fire material.

    >
    >What contributions have you made?

    Ah, hmm, duh, err. Oh, that's right I have a job and a life that takes me
    away. No time to help others, oh except for that church thing, oh and the
    Christmas dinners, oh and the mission. Well I guess that's not as important
    as writing programming columns in local newsletters or helping others use
    their computers in productive ways. Unfortunatly the people I help can't
    afford computers.

    >I could likewise say that if programming was left only to those who obtained

    a
    >4-year CS degree, this industry would be in a world of hurt.

    Correct, we with the CS degree would have nothing to fix.


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