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How to make consistant site
I want to make a site that is consistant throughout all the pages. By this
I mean I want a uniform top and side where I can have a banner and a navigation
bar. I looked at using templates, but once you make the template and start
using it then if you wanted to make a change to lets say the table size of
your navigation bar then you have to do it for each page.
What I want to be able to do is make a page using tables. Then make all
my page using these tables and the way they are sized and formated. Then
if I want to make a change to lets say a table size of my navigation bar
then I would like to only have to do it in one place and all the pages would
change.
Is there a way to do this? Or is this still a pipe dream?
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Re: How to make consistant site
Look up Cascading Style Sheets (CSS). CSS will allow you to setup a single
style sheet that can control font, colors, positioning, and most features of
a sute pertaining to its presentation and link the sheet to each of your web
pages..
Check out the CSS tips in the Expressit section of my website. If you
looking for more help or questions about style properties feel free to
contact me directly from the website
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"tibbs" <tibbs14@telocity.com> wrote in message
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> I want to make a site that is consistant throughout all the pages. By
this
> I mean I want a uniform top and side where I can have a banner and a
navigation
> bar. I looked at using templates, but once you make the template and
start
> using it then if you wanted to make a change to lets say the table size of
> your navigation bar then you have to do it for each page.
>
> What I want to be able to do is make a page using tables. Then make all
> my page using these tables and the way they are sized and formated. Then
> if I want to make a change to lets say a table size of my navigation bar
> then I would like to only have to do it in one place and all the pages
would
> change.
>
> Is there a way to do this? Or is this still a pipe dream?
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Re: How to make consistant site
Well, from what I know, when I create a template in dreamweaver,
it does exactly what you are describing. So, I think you might
want to invest in a html authoring program, so you can use templates
the way you would like to.
Charles
"tibbs" <tibbs14@telocity.com> wrote:
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>I want to make a site that is consistant throughout all the pages. By this
>I mean I want a uniform top and side where I can have a banner and a navigation
>bar. I looked at using templates, but once you make the template and start
>using it then if you wanted to make a change to lets say the table size
of
>your navigation bar then you have to do it for each page.
>
>What I want to be able to do is make a page using tables. Then make all
>my page using these tables and the way they are sized and formated. Then
>if I want to make a change to lets say a table size of my navigation bar
>then I would like to only have to do it in one place and all the pages would
>change.
>
>Is there a way to do this? Or is this still a pipe dream?
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Re: How to make consistant site
Your best bet would be to use something like ASP , JSP , PHP or Coldfusion
. They are all server side technology and would make you life alot easier
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Re: How to make consistant site
What you could do is create an .asp page and then usse the Server.Execute(page.asp)
to insert a header page at the top of a page or a navigation page. Works
great this way you will only have the one page to maintain and have it change
everything on all your pages.
"tibbs" <tibbs14@telocity.com> wrote:
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>I want to make a site that is consistant throughout all the pages. By this
>I mean I want a uniform top and side where I can have a banner and a navigation
>bar. I looked at using templates, but once you make the template and start
>using it then if you wanted to make a change to lets say the table size
of
>your navigation bar then you have to do it for each page.
>
>What I want to be able to do is make a page using tables. Then make all
>my page using these tables and the way they are sized and formated. Then
>if I want to make a change to lets say a table size of my navigation bar
>then I would like to only have to do it in one place and all the pages would
>change.
>
>Is there a way to do this? Or is this still a pipe dream?
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Re: How to make consistant site
Hi There
I think Templates must be the way to go to achive the consistent look and
feel throughout your site.
If you are using a dev tool like Dreamweaver you can find out about templates
with help or from the macromedia web site...
Best of Luck
Graham
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Re: How to make consistant site
Hi,
The Dreamweaver templates are sometimes useful, but I decide to stop using
them. I designed three sites with Dreamweaver templates, and have three different
problems for each site. The result was that I had to waste the same time
resolving these problems that I if had to rewrite each page for the sites.
I canīt describe you the problems, and they arenīt so simple to explain.
For the first you could say that I did not know how to use the program; but
not for the other two . The thing is that this is a "propietary" solution
and as such it would always give you trouble. You will always have problems
since the templates must be in a subfolder named "templates", so, you must
keep this in mind for your behaviors or the javascript code yourīre writing,
and the links to other pages and the other elements like images and rollover
images, etc..., because it changes the root directory of the page, since
the pages and their templates have different "paths" or "Urls". And if you
add some extra sections to the layout of the template, like cells, some of
the content of the pages linked to that DW template will be lost, not added,
or so, when doing the "actualization" of the pages -in other words, make
the pages reflect the changes made to their template.
So, now I use templates, but with my own "propietary solution". I prefer
to expend some tedious time "copying and pasting" the html content for a
couple of templates (one for the principal pages, one for the inner ones)
I defined and saved as .html files, with no content except for that fixed,
and the layout and brief instructions pointing "text here", etc. I keep the
content, text, mainly, separated in other, rather "plain" html files, and
merge them with the templates, with a simple copy and past. Then I save the
template as a separate file with another name. If you do so you must have
backups for the templates, in case you get distracted and re-write the file.
For all things that I could use CSS, I do so. I do a change to a separate
CSS file in seconds and the site in its entirity changes! In the future I
have other plans (since I canīt do automatic actualization for content troughout
the site), but this and the use of more and more features of CSS is the way
I prefer.
Sorry if I made this message to long to read, but I think this is a main
problem when planning a site...
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Re: How to make consistant site
Actually Kevin, you can do this.
We were able to pull this off in a productional environment with a limited
number of users. What you need to do is to use a single page(or group of
pages) as a framework for all your pages. This key set of pages would then
access a DB to extract control records that define everything in your set
of pages. Every Button, menu item, link, DB query, etc that you want displayed
can be placed in control table(s) to define the functionality of your set
of pages. We stripped all the fluff out of the app. No graphics.
We dealt strictly with DB records, the navigation through the records, including
explodes, and the formatting of the records for display to the user.
We used ASP for this projec, but any of the technologies that are able to
generate HTML based on logic such as JSP or servlets should work. Not exactly
MVC but pretty cool once it was completed.
It got a little more complex then what was fully anticipated, but it was
well worth the work. We realized a HUGE reduction in the base code set.
AND had a definite benefit of being able to create future applications without
having to write any code.
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"Kevin" <kevin@wyport.com> wrote:
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>What you could do is create an .asp page and then usse the Server.Execute(page.asp)
>to insert a header page at the top of a page or a navigation page. Works
>great this way you will only have the one page to maintain and have it change
>everything on all your pages.
>
>"tibbs" <tibbs14@telocity.com> wrote:
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>>I want to make a site that is consistant throughout all the pages. By
this
>>I mean I want a uniform top and side where I can have a banner and a navigation
>>bar. I looked at using templates, but once you make the template and start
>>using it then if you wanted to make a change to lets say the table size
>of
>>your navigation bar then you have to do it for each page.
>>
>>What I want to be able to do is make a page using tables. Then make all
>>my page using these tables and the way they are sized and formated. Then
>>if I want to make a change to lets say a table size of my navigation bar
>>then I would like to only have to do it in one place and all the pages
would
>>change.
>>
>>Is there a way to do this? Or is this still a pipe dream?
>
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Re: How to make consistant site
"Graham" <graham@digitalfresh.co.uk> wrote:
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>Hi There
> I think Templates must be the way to go to achive the consistent look and
>feel throughout your site.
>If you are using a dev tool like Dreamweaver you can find out about templates
>with help or from the macromedia web site...
>
>Best of Luck
>
>
>Graham
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Re: How to make consistant site
"Graham" <graham@digitalfresh.co.uk> wrote:
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>Hi There
> I think Templates must be the way to go to achive the consistent look and
>feel throughout your site.
>If you are using a dev tool like Dreamweaver you can find out about templates
>with help or from the macromedia web site...
>
>Best of Luck
>
>
>Graham
Why won't DHTML function in Netscape 6.2, it works in explorer.
Dave
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